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- From: shwake@nearside.UUCP (Raymond Shwake)
- Newsgroups: comp.unix.sys5.r4
- Subject: Re: What is lacking in UNIX? (Re: UNIVEL MUST BE KIDDING!!!!!)
- Message-ID: <77@nearside.UUCP>
- Date: 23 Dec 92 14:38:46 GMT
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- grog@lemis.uucp (Greg Lehey) writes:
-
- >My impression so far (I'm testing this for a review in a German UNIX
- >magazine) is that they have tried to make it easy for a novice to
- >install. By removing the traditional methods and not documenting their
- >new ones properly, they have also ensured that you need to be a novice
- >to install it. So far, I would say it is probably the worst
- >UNIX installation process I have ever seen.
-
- My own experience has been far more positive. We first had access
- to the Beta version (release 12) in early summer. Got the floppy disk
- version, as we don't have a tape drive handy. Installed it on an old NEC
- 386/25s with slow MFM drive. Installation went at least as smoothly as my
- earlier experiences with SCO Xenix/386 and ISC UNIX, and smoother than
- ODT 1.0 with its crazy disk sequencing.
-
- We've since had access to an evaluation copy of the final binary
- (sans serious documentation). Still using the floppy disk version. The
- initial three-floppy boot sequence *never* took even the thirty minutes
- you state, except when we installed on an Austin 486/50 EISA tower with a
- 2.1 GB disk. Checking *that* disk took a while, as one might imagine, but
- required getting current Adaptec ROMs and using Option 0 under fdisk after
- saving my configuration (not discussed in the documentation). Also
- succeeded in installing on an AST Premium with dual SCSI disks. Without
- problem. Even setting up TCP/IP and NFS went fairly easily, once we knew
- the "trick" to using our 3COM 3C503-16-TP cards with the 8-bit driver.
- (We'll be trying SMC's 16-bit Elite series shortly.)
-
- With the rather skimpy draft documentation at my disposal, I did
- sometimes have to feel my way around, but with nine years UN*X experience
- under my belt, it wasn't bad. Still, I hope the commercial releases provide
- better, more comprehensive documentation; I also believe firmly that "man"
- pages should be provided standard (some vendors will be providing same).
-
- The current *costs* associated with Destiny/UNIXWARE continue to
- pose a problem. Comprehensive packages are expensive from the only two
- sources I've yet found distributing SVr4.2 (Consensys and Info Foundations).
- I'm not counting Univel, which is even *worse*, since we don't do Netware
- here.
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