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- From: CCGREG@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Greg Johnson)
- Subject: Re: What is lacking in UNIX? (Re: UNIVEL MUST BE KIDDING!!!!!)
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- References: <1992Dec18.014048.26507@Celestial.COM> <1992Dec18.163645.2866@pelane.cubx.com>
- Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 14:09:05 CST
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- In article <1992Dec18.163645.2866@pelane.cubx.com>
- noyau@pelane.cubx.com (Eric Noyau) writes:
- >NeXTOS is almost that simple. It's already installed on any NeXTStation.
- >If you want to intall a new version boot from cd-rom and click install or
- >upgrade...
-
- NeXT public archives offer a "BootFloppy" builder which lets you boot
- a NeXT in single-user mode from one floppy. To be sure, it does
- require a 2.88MB floppy, and it's even more normalized than ordinary
- Unix--there's no "cat ...", one says "grep '' ...". Still, using just
- that floppy with no hard disk I can vi, find, mount, and do essential
- sysadmin work. On the NeXT single-floppy Unix, the mach kernel & such take
- 624K, /bin 734K, /usr/shlib 673K, /usr/etc 230K, with about 200K left
- for VM (!) & user files. What's a DOS floppy give us, edlin?
-
- The question isn't so much whether a Unix system can get down on all
- fours and bark like a dog. Unix does accomodate radical stripping and
- still offers more functionality than similar-sized systems.
-
- Here's what I want to know. How many bytes are needed to make a
- file-system+loader like MS-DOS gain Unix-like capabilities?
- (Probably size(OS/2)-size(DOS)...) Put more precisely:
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- - Across systems (Unix flavors, OS/2, Mac, Amiga, MVS, VMS, whatever)
- what is the range of space costs for basic features such as virtual memory,
- multitasking, security, device drivers, etc.? Byte-counts for higher
- features such as TCP/IP, NFS, and X should be easy to obtain.
-
- Can we make sweeping generalizations like "virtual memory code takes 1MB"?
- (Uh, how about "virtual memory code takes 1MB on non-IBM systems"?)
-
- - To what extent do these systems allow adding or removing such features?
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