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- Organization: Penn State University
- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 22:46:48 EST
- From: <RFM@psuvm.psu.edu>
- Message-ID: <92356.224648RFM@psuvm.psu.edu>
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
- Subject: Re: Q about Tandy 2820
- References: <92356.001619U61474@uicvm.uic.edu>
- <1992Dec21.210559.19063@netcon.smc.edu>
- Lines: 86
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- In article <1992Dec21.210559.19063@netcon.smc.edu>, agood@netcon.smc.edu (Aaron
- Good) says:
- >
- >In article <92356.001619U61474@uicvm.uic.edu> MATT HUNSAKER
- ><U61474@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
- >>showed me a bunch of over-priced for the market computers, but the 2820 was
- >>only $999. If anyone out there has one or has used used one, I would be
- >
- >IMHO - DON'T buy it.. get a 386 clone based laptop from another vendor.....
- >stay away from Radio Shack ... I have a 2810 60 Mb and it was a good computer
- >two years ago.. but is way overpriced and undersupported..
- >I wanted to upgrade the machine to a 80386SLC type processor... but TANDY
- >won't
- >sell me the part... or if I lie and tell Tandy I'm going to return the logic
- >board it will be only 500.00 to upgrade. AND TANDY WILL NOT DO THE UPGRADE
- >I HAVE TO DO IT MYSELF AND VOID THE WARRANTY...
- >
- >I'm really p.o.'d at TANDY
- >
- >
- Don't know of any mfgr of notebooks who offers an upgrade path....
- (Sigh!) Wish they did - especially wish Tandy offered a supported
- upgrade board to swap out in 2810-series.
-
- But to bash Tandy about this? You'll have to bash the entire notebook
- industry. I've never seen anyone advertise m'board upgrades for
- notebooks.
-
- The real problem is that the n'book industry is churning out new models
- every 6 months or so, or so it seems. Is 3 mnoths more like it?
-
- Buy the latest/greatest n'book today - like the new IBM Thinkpad 700-
- series, and what will you have next year this time? -- An obsolescent
- machine that's bben replaced by a newer model with a low-voltage version
- of the incoming Intel Pentium chip - with active-matrix color screen,
- for what? $2,500 - $3,000? You can't keep up.
-
- I've been burned by Tandy too - the 20-meg version of the 2810. Tandy
- came out with 60-meg version about 6 months later. There have been
- days when I would have KILLED for 60-megs in my 2810. In fact, if I
- had 60 megs now, a 2810 would last me a couple more years. With DOS5
- and QRAM for upper mem access, the machine is plenty fast for DOS
- apps. Heck, even for Windoze (but I wouldn't try to multi-task
- anything).
- I spent 10 months with my 2810 plugged into a [cheap] vga color
- monitor and an external keyboard, managing my files with STACKER
- and Norton Backup to swap files/subdirectories in/out of my 2810.
- I've hauled the machine up&down East Coast, and in & out of class-
- rooms, for going on 20 months. When on sabbattical, I had the machine
- running 10-15 hours a day (plugged into monitor, etc.). I've burned out
- an external pwer supply, but the machine keeps chugging along.
- BTW: with 5 megs mem, a coprocessor, the internal modem on, etc.,
- after a week or so with the system sitting on a desk plugged into exteranl
- power, when you go on battery, you've got 15-20 mintutes of power
-
- Would I buy another Tandy notebook? I dunno. Tandy does dumb thing.
- Like right now, they're selling a 486sx/20 notebook (current sale
- price is under $2,000), with a 60-meg hd. I wouldn't buy a 60-megger
- today for love nor money (I learned my lesson back at 20-megs!)
- I expect Tandy soon will come out with a 486/25 with 100/120-meg
- hd, which is probably why they've dropped the price way down on
- the 4800's.
- But there are lots of obsolescent Toshiba's, Zenith's. IBM's,
- Compaq's, and every other brand you can think of out there, too.
- Their models are changing as rapidly as Tandy's are, and I don't
- think you can upgrade any of them, either.
-
- Why am I wrting all this? I'm more a Tandy-basher than a Tandy-lover;
- I'll never forgive Tandy or me for buying a 20-meg ANYTHING! But
- I do have to say that my 2810 has taken a lot of use, and keeps
- on chuggin' away.
-
- BTW: One of latest pc magazines reports torture tests of several
- notebooks: Tandy 4800 isn't the fastest in terms of operating
- speed, but it came out tops in terms of keeping on running after
- freezing, heating, pouring coffee on it, shaking, dropping, etc.
-
- If I were a person looking for a good deal, and a 2820 with a 60-meg
- hard drive (brand new, NOT display model) came along for $900 or
- so, and all I wanted was a DOS-level machine for not a whoe bunch
- of money, I could be happy with 2820 (for a while, anyway). Good
- keyboard, readable screen, reliable.
-
- BobM, PSU-Harrisburg
-
- -- Me? Defend Tandy? You gotta be kidding! I'm sick!
-