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- From: fyl@ssc.com (Phil Hughes)
- Subject: Re: Is Sun losing touch with its customers?
- Organization: SSC, Inc., Seattle, WA
- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 19:45:25 GMT
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- I have some generic comments on the SunOS vs. UNIX V game. For those who
- don't know SSC, we publish pocket-sized references for computer systems
- with our major emphasis on UNIX systems. I am currently in the process of
- completing a new Command Summary that will cover System V, Release 4.2 and
- Solaris 2.1.
-
- When we started this project we thought we were just doing a quick update
- to our SVR4 summary. As we got further into the project we realized that:
- 1. SVR4.2 is quite different from SVR4
- 2. Solaris 2.1 is very close to SVR4.2
- Thus, the project evolved into this new (unnamed) product.
-
- That said and having done consulting and teaching on UNIX systems from
- Version 7 on as well as XENIX I see what is happening with the
- SVR4.2/Solaris combination as a real step in the right direction.
- Yes, we can all find fault with a vendor changing our tools but, unlike
- many changes in the past this one actually is moving UNIX systems in a
- common direction. A few years ago the idea of of combining our BSD
- reference with our System V reference would have been absurd. Today it is
- a reality.
-
- What's wrong is that we are creating a bigger system because of the merge.
- Also, some things get broken in the process. This reminds me a lot of
- when the ANSI C standard was evolving. Many people saw this
- standardization as "making C bigger". I was one of those people until I
- had the opportunity to meet many of the members of the committee and talk
- to them (Thom Plum, in particular) about the project. Once I got the
- "inside look" I saw that documenting common usage rather than building a
- new language was the goal of the project. Personally I think the end
- result both defined a good language that all could use and broke a minimum
- of existing code.
-
- I see the Solaris move as very similar. It needed to happen and getting
- our "ducks in a row" before Microsoft is busy telling the world that NT is
- Posix compliant and there are too many different versions of the UNIX
- system out there seems like the right time. Making this happen at the
- same time as a new hardware release seems like another good decision.
-
- My conclusion is that this decision is in the best interest of both new
- users and the UNIX community in general. Those who have been exclusively
- using either System V based systems or BSD based systems will be hurt in
- the short term and, yes, systems will get larger and somewhat less
- efficient as a result. But, five years from now, we will all have
- benefited from this decision.
-
- Now, let me put on my fireproof suit and wait. :-)
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- Phil Hughes, SSC, Inc. P.O. Box 55549, Seattle, WA 98155 (206)FOR-UNIX
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