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- From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
- Subject: Re: Frustrated with SGI support..
- Message-ID: <ubbh8go@zuni.esd.sgi.com>
- Date: 1 Jan 93 19:04:49 GMT
- References: <34842@adm.brl.mil>
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- Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc. Mountain View, CA
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- In <34842@adm.brl.mil> andersen@marvin.ama.ttu.edu (Kim Andersen) writes:
-
- | I have several SGI systems, all different models. I was very happy with
- | the hotline service the first couple years - they were very speedy and
- | knowledgable. HOWEVER, response time has increased dramatically (coupled
- | with a seeming decrease in competence) over the past year and a half.
- | Ever since 4.0.X was released. Now I don't bother to call the hotline
- | anymore because on the rare occasion that I get a return call, they have
- | no clue anyway.
- |
- | Sorry, guys, but that's my experience.
-
- Well, along with 4.0.X, came the Indigo. Between a whole new set of
- of software to support (X11 and Motif), and many thousands of new
- machines (and therefore customers), the support folks got rather
- swamped. It took them a while to hire (and train!) enough additional
- people to catch up with the load. Yes, they knew it was coming, and
- tried to staff up ahead of time, but it turned out much worse (in terms
- of numbers of machines and calls) than was expected. That explains
- much of the response time changes. On the other hand, they changed
- procedures (and are still changing them) to try to reduce the time to
- the first callback. They haven't always succeeded, but it has gotten
- better overall.
-
- Any of you who have ever supported software and hardware, either
- as part of your job or informally, know that the greater the number of
- products, the harder it is to even train people to ask the right
- questions about the problem, let alone to answer them.
-
-
- I'd also like to address another theme that has gone through
- this thread.
-
- I don't understand why *anybody* expects that the support people
- would be able to answer everybody's questions (at least on the
- first call, or maybe even the second)! After all, I have (not
- to be overly modest) a pretty wide breadth of knowledge of SGI's
- software and hardware, and there are plenty of things it would
- take me some time to find the answer to, or even to find out
- who would know the answer. I also know that sometimes it takes
- 3 or 4 exchanges to even get enough info to find out what the
- problem is; some people seem to want you to pry the info out
- of them. I'm sure they don't see it that way, but believe me,
- any of us answering questions, either as part of our jobs,
- or informally, see it that way from time to time!
-
- Sometimes the answer is just "it is a bug in the released
- software, we don't know when it will be fixed, or how to
- workaround it". While that may seem to customers like the
- support folks don't care, that is the answer that they get from
- the R&D engineers. To their credit, they will push back when
- they get that answer, and if they start getting a lot of calls
- about a particular problem, they push even harder to get a
- better answer, and hopefully a fix or workaround. Even so,
- sometimes it just goes on the open bug list.
-
- So, if you don't call support because you think you won't get an
- answer, you have only yourself to blame if the bug/problem/lack
- of features persists into the next N releases. Sure, if we see
- complaints of a problem on the net, *usually* somebody will turn
- it into a bug report if we decide it is one (or even just fix
- it then and there for the next release), but you can't count
- on that happening. In addition, some groups of engineers are
- far less likely to read the net than others, and those of us who
- do may not have any idea whether it is a bug or not if it is in
- an area with which we aren't familiar.
- --
- Let no one tell me that silence gives consent, | Dave Olson
- because whoever is silent dissents. | Silicon Graphics, Inc.
- Maria Isabel Barreno | olson@sgi.com
-