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- From: tpugh@oce.orst.edu (Tim Pugh)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
- Subject: Re: FORTRAN- and Pascal-Compiler
- Keywords: absoft FORTRAN
- Message-ID: <1h806gINN8o5@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>
- Date: 22 Dec 92 21:09:36 GMT
- Article-I.D.: gaia.1h806gINN8o5
- References: <1992Dec21.221221.10027@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
- Reply-To: Tim Pugh <tpugh@oce.orst.edu>
- Organization: University Computing Services - Oregon State University
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- In article <1992Dec21.221221.10027@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
- brit@wagner.Physics.McGill.CA (Dave Britton) writes:
- > I have had a fair amount of trouble with the absoft compiler, including
- > finding one bug that they blame on the 68040 chip. On the other hand
- > I have had no problems with f2c (available free on ftp sites) AND
- > programs tend to run quicker if I use f2c rather than the absoft
- > compiler.
- > The absoft compiler is certainly fine for simple fortran but if
- > (like me) you have 300 subroutines of ancient fortran using all
- > sorts of dubious constructs, then forget it. For example, if you
- > have a subroutine that has entry points that allow an alternative
- > return code (ENTRY MYENTRY(A,*) syntax) then the subroutine itself
- > must be declared MYSUBROUTINE(...,*) even if the main subroutine
- > does not use alternate returns. Similarly, absoft compiler is
- > annoyingly picky about where data statements can appear ( having
- > to change several hundred routines to fix this was also a pain).
- >
- > Dave.
-
- Here is another point-of-view for the absoft compiler:
- I've ported over 20,000 lines of FORTRAN 77 code from the Apollo workstations
- to the NeXT with the absoft compiler. The software has FORTRAN 66 and FORTRAN
- 77 statements plus Apollo specific language extensions. The software contained
- graphics, system calls, printing, formatted and unformatted i/o, fault
- handlers, and complex data structures. Note: my software did not jump around
- like a jack rabbit using entry statements, only goto's, so I have no knowledge
- of entry statement problems.
-
- The only problems encountered were with FORTRAN 77 extensions, like intrinsics
- functions and i/o statements, that the Apollo used to extend the language.
- However, the absoft compiler did support a large set of the extensions so the
- changes were few. (Digital Librarian made the changes painless.) The code
- ported in less than a day, after having spent weeks porting system calls, fault
- handlers, and graphics.
-
- The absoft compiler supported all the necessary compiler flags to make the NeXT
- software 100% compatible with the Apollo version. I never had a problem with
- the FORTRAN language interpretation made by the absoft compiler. In fact, my
- FORTRAN 77 code on the absoft compiler ports without problems to Sun's,
- Apollo's, and RS-6000's. Problems occur only when I write with FORTRAN
- extensions.
-
- The biggest problem was that I could not catch FPU faults. The problem, told
- by absoft, was with NeXT OS, not absoft which I agree. I've also been told
- that it's been fixed in NS3.0, although I have not had a chance to test it.
- Another problem was in their 040 code generation (-N40) which absoft fixed in
- their v3.2 compiler. I never experienced the problem but switched to a safer
- code generation switch (-N53) when I heard this. The performance of the
- software is good IMHO.
-
- I don't have any performance comparisons between f2c and absoft but maybe
- someone would like to post their results. I have some compute intensive finite
- difference code to make a comparison with if anyone is interested.
-
- - Tim -
- --
- Tim Pugh
- College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences
- Oregon State University
- tpugh@oce.orst.edu
-