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- From: bostrov@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU (Vareck Bostrom)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
- Subject: Re: Multi Line BBS
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- Date: 21 Dec 92 16:32:03 GMT
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- References: <1992Dec18.080158.19384@netcom.com> <dillon.0t21@overload.Berkeley.CA.US> <1992Dec20.152822.29515@wam.umd.edu>
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- In article <1992Dec20.152822.29515@wam.umd.edu> rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Yamanari) writes:
- >In article <dillon.0t21@overload.Berkeley.CA.US> dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US (Matthew Dillon) writes:
- >> * If you fill up the disk and the NeXT runs out of swap it crashes
- >> hard.
-
- I keep wondering about this. My NeXTCube has never crashed though
- it's run out of disk space on "/" (Same partition as the swap space)
- many times. Some times I have several large Improv worksheets, Mathematica,
- ImageViewer and several other things running ... vm_stat reports
- something like 20 pages free (i.e. out of real memory) and the disk is
- full..df reports 101% use on /, but the machine does not crash. I keep
- worrying about it because everyone has told me it would crash, but it never
- does. I've got 24MB in my cube..
-
- I have 16MB in my turbo color slab and it does crash when the disk
- fills up where the swap space is. I wonder if its because the slab
- runns 3.0 and the cube runs 2.1 , or because the cube has 24 MB real
- while the slab has only 16 MB, or what.
-
-
- >> * No resource limits (NeXT ignores everything but the stack size limit)
- >> * No process/thread limits
- > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^
- >
- > Surely you jest. Surely, certainly, the OS of the future is
- > not so threadbare that it lacks features that most versions
- > of UNIX have these days..?
- >
-
- Well, i have noticed the quota system missing from the NeXT..and while it might
- be nice for a BBS machine, I have never missed the process / thread limits
- so common to the rest of the world. I hate the "csh: fork failed" that I
- get on our HP's every time a big assignment is due and I try to fire up
- emacs, cc, or anything.
-
- I can live without a BBS system for the NeXT for a while...who cares?
- ftp seems to work pretty well.
-
- What I would REALLY like for the next is a good communications program
- (kinda free, like so many of the PC world) that includes ZModem.
-
- 'I have tried IComm but it kinda takes over the machine, and I hate that.
- I know there are comm programs that cost money out there but ...sigh.
- I like going down to the local "HardWare Shop" , pointing at a
- Supra 14.4 modem and having a NeXT flow control cable and _NeXT_
- communication software included. This MAC software that came with the
- modem doesn't work well with NeXTs (or at all, in fact) .
-
- I'm one of those people who hates mail order and must HAVE IT TODAY, and
- NeXT software is simply not that available yet. Oh Well.
-
- Stick with our machines, guys..someday......
-
- -Vareck
-