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- From: ksand@apple.com (Kent Sandvik )
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.oop.misc
- Subject: Re: Summary: I'm faint! I just saw the price for MPW!
- Message-ID: <ksand-231292103818@wintermute.apple.com>
- Date: 23 Dec 92 18:49:07 GMT
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- In article <jsuker.725131248@orion.oac.uci.edu>, jsuker@orion.oac.uci.edu
- (Johnathon Suker) wrote:
- > >statement does not clearly state that the snippets also belong to this
- > >category, but this is the case as well. So I will talk with the people
- > >downstairs making sure that this is also included to the license in
- > >future.
- > I came onto this thread rather late, but I am writing a program
- > that uses some code from one of the TechNotes (it is a generic socket
- > listener) also from TechNote 18. When done I wanted to release this
- > program as shareware/freeware (I havent decided yet). Am I to assume
- > I now cannot? I am modifying the code for my purposes but you can only
- > write an event loop so many ways and so I used the TechNote code. Do
- > I now have to re-write all of it or just give Apple credit (which I
- > was going to do anyway)?
-
- The TN/sample code responsible person told me that snippets and source
- code in samples are OK for reuse. Earlier I was worried myself because we
- at
- DTS have written and are writing more and more re-usable component level
- samples, and the main idea with these are really copy-paste, and not worry
- about legal issues. But we cleared up this situation months ago.
-
- The core idea with sample/snippet copyright is that we control who updates
- the sources, so if we need to revise them, it is our version that
- is the official one. We don't want to see something similar happening as
- in the case of NewsWatcher for a while, when there were N versions floating
- around. Otherwise 're-cycling' of code is all right.
-
- The problem I saw yesterday was that the license agreement didn't clearly
- state this -- and I'm talking with the people to make sure that this will
- happen.
-
- So don't worry, publish your code, but from an ethical point of view it
- makes sense to quote the sources to your snippets.
-
- As for MacApp applications, I must once more state that if Adobe et
- the the rest of the big guys dare to publish MacApp based applications,
- then the rest of you should sleep during nights as well :-).
-
- And the last point, if re-use of DTS source code would be verboten, you
- would see herds of Apple lawyers everywhere, starting up cases against poor
- developers :-). The core thing is that we -- as well as most other
- SW companies -- don't like the idea that someone just dumps the asm, tweaks
- a couple of instructions, and then ships the binary as their own
- copyrighted
- version. This has happened. And it's called cheating on the expense of
- others' sweat :-(.
-
- I hope we have cleared up this infamous rumor once and for all. And if you
- really have a borderline issue, contact Apple Legal,
- SW.LICENSE@Applelink.apple.com, they are a nice bunch of people, I've
- talked
- with them before, they don't bite, and they would give you the ultimate
- Apple statement about anything related to legal issues.
-
- Kent
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