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- From: maynard@leah.msc.cornell.edu (Maynard J. Handley)
- Subject: Re: Sumex is in need of a restucturing
- Message-ID: <1993Jan3.043413.6413@msc.cornell.edu>
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- Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
- References: <1992Dec31.174208.25214@nmsu.edu> <BRECHER.92Dec31192928@husc8.harvard.edu><1993Jan2.030645.17703@msc.cornell.edu> <BRECHER.93Jan2023201@husc8.harvard.edu>
- Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 04:34:13 GMT
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- In article <BRECHER.93Jan2023201@husc8.harvard.edu>,
- brecher@husc8.harvard.edu (Jonathan Brecher) writes:
- >maynard@leah.msc.cornell.edu (Maynard J. Handley) writes:
- >
- >>There is, however, one major advantage to the sumex structure that the
- >>mac.archive structure does not have. BECAUSE sumex is mainly one-level
- >>directories, one can ftp there, type 'ls -lrt' and immediately see where
- >to
- >>look for new stuff. This is complely impractical with mac.archive. You
- >have
- >>to download the new additions file then step through it file by file,
- >>continually cd'ing up three layers and down another three.
- >>
- >>If the archives ran on decent computers that could be configured to
- >reflect
- >>changes in subdirectory contents in the date published by 'ls -ltr' I
- >would
- >>be willing to live with a many-layer system, but given the way things
- >now
- >>work, I avoid mac.archive if I possibly can do so.
- >
- >By your own argument, you should use mac.archive exclusively and avoid
- >sumex
- >whenever possible. At mac.archive we maintain a directory
- >/mac/00newfiles/NEW
- >that has links to ALL files added in the last month. At sumex even after
- >you
- >type 'ls -lrt' you still have to go directory hopping. At mac.archive,
- >all
- >newly-added files are accessible from the one directory. The new
- >additions
- >file (/mac/00help/newfiles.txt) is there if you want it; there are people
- >who
- >do.
-
- But there is a problem with these links, not your fault but nonetheless
- there.
- 1) There are lotsa them
- 2) Each one, because the paths are so long, takes up a lot of space.
- Thus when one does ls -lrt, one gets a large number of files scrolling off
- the top of the screen. You may have a few lines of scrollback, depending on
- how primitive a terminal you're connected to, but usually not 100s of
- lines.
- (Yeah I know how to make my xterms have 5000 line scrollback capability. I
- don't do that because more than about 150 lines introduces a new set of
- problems.)
- This is of course a problem with ftp and you can't fix it, but is does make
- using the links directory impractical if you connect once every two weeks
- rather than once a day.
-
- But please don't be offended by my criticisms. I'm sure lots of people do
- use your archive and you are helping them. That's what matters most.
-
- See ya,
- Maynard Handley
-