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- From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
- Subject: Re: AMD rubbish????
- Message-ID: <1992Dec29.080952.16050@cs.yale.edu>
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- Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
- References: <WAYNE.92Dec28191841@backbone.uucp>
- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 08:09:52 GMT
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- In article <WAYNE.92Dec28191841@backbone.uucp> wayne@backbone.uucp (Wayne
- Schlitt) writes:
- > In article <BzMHBq.JxB@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
- ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:
-
- > > The reason is that the Cyrix part isn't a true 486. It does use the
- > > 486 instruction set (at least some of it) but is really a drop-in
- > > part for 386 motherboards.
-
- > There was just a fairly long discussion in a few news groups on
- > whether the Cyrix chip is a "true" 486 or not and I have come to the
- > following conclusions:
- >
- > 1) The Cyrix chip implements all new instructions and all new cpu
- > flags that the intel 486 implements.
- >
- > 2) This like chip pin-outs, bus widths, cache sizes and
- > organizations, number of chips and support of floating point are
- > usually considered "implementation details". What instructions
- > (especially user mode instructions) the chip implements is what
- > determines the "cpu architecture".
- >
- > The fact that the 386SX has a smaller bus than a 386DX doesn't
- > mean it isn't a "real" 386. The same goes for the pin differences
- > between a 486DX and a 487DX. Likewise, the IBM "blue lightning"
- > 486DX-99 is said to have a larger cache, this doesn't mean it isn't
- > a 486.
- >
- >
- > 3) NeXTStep is said to not run on a Cyrix chip. No other software
- > has been shown not to work on the Cyrix chip, and no one knows why
- > NeXT can't get NeXTStep to run on it.
-
- Perhaps because the NeXTstep 486 port was paid for by Intel? It's
- pretty easy to speculate they would have specified that the port
- only work with the "Real Thing"...
-
- --
- Nathan Janette
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