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Info-IBMPC Digest           Thu, 17 Dec 92       Volume 92 : Issue 193

Today's Editor:
         Gregory Hicks - Rota Spain <[e-mail]>

Today's Topics:
               32-bit speed (Was: Some news from PC Week)
                   Desktop appearance (OS/2) (2 msgs)
                         Desqview and WP Office
              IBM HelpLine Solved My Floppy Disk Problem!
               Internal Processing Error (OS/2) (2 msgs)
                I want ASCII system files.  NOW! (OS/2)
                 Max. number of files in DOS-directory?
                Os/2 GA/SP and WinOS2 3.1 HELP! (2 msgs)
                         Printer control codes
               Problems with the CSD, please help/note!!!
                         Some news from PC Week
                Summary: TurboVision screensaver design
                         What's going on now?!?
               Why "Unable to control A20 line!" happens?
            Why is <ESC> special, and, how can I catch one?
          Windows 3.1 "Refresh" to cost money (OS/2) (2 msgs)
         Graphical tool for file maintenance over dialup links

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Date: 2 Dec 92 14:07:15 GMT
From: Olav Torvund <[e-mail]>
Subject: 32-bit speed (Was: Some news from PC Week)

[e-mail] (Marc Fraioli) writes:

There was much of interest in Marc Fraioli's posting. I just want to
highlight one point,and recirculate two pragraphs:

     "A lot of people doing high-end PC applications will benefit
the most from this," said Drew Harman, product manager at Neuron Data,
a Palo Alto, Calif., maker of portable graphical user interface
development tools.

     In moving to Windows NT, Neuron Data hopes to realize
performance gains similar to those that the company enjoyed when it
ported its tool suite to 32-bit OS/2 2.0, Harman said.  That shift
resulted in a 40 percent performance boost over the company's 16-bit
OS/2 product.

For everyday-work like wordprocessing, Windows programs are painfully
slow, at least when you are working on books and articles, and not only
short letters and memos. 16-bits OS/2 is better than Windows, but I am
really looking forward to a 40 percent performance boost. When the
performance boost is visible in applications with mass-market appeal,
then the market will realize the power of OS/2!

Olav Torvund
University of Oslo
Norway
[e-mail]

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Date: 3 Dec 92 14:19:03 GMT
From: "Michael J. Saletnik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Desktop appearance  (OS/2)

[e-mail] (Lee Clarke) writes:

>I apply this font to the desktop it doesn't stay that way. I use Alt-drag,

What I've found works for me, is to right after doing the Alt-drag to
the desktop, I do a regular drag to the desktop.  Then the scheme is
applied everywhere.

          Michael

Michael J. Saletnik, Tufts University E'91 G'93  / I reserve the right
Department of Civil Engineering Computer Lab TA / to be utterly and
[e-mail] (daily uucp)     / completely wrong.

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Date: 3 Dec 92 00:02:37 GMT
From: Lee Clarke <[e-mail]>
Subject: Desktop appearance (OS/2)

Set up is 2.0 with service pack. I've set the font in Menu Text on the
Scheme Pallete to Helv 12. The interesting, annoying thing is that when
I apply this font to the desktop it doesn't stay that way. I use
Alt-drag, and some time ago someone suggested doing that operation
very, very slowly and I've done that. The font stays put for all menus
under the desktop, but it's the desktop where I want it most. Any
ideas?

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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 92 14:35:00 -0800
From: john filce <[e-mail]>
Subject: Desqview and WP Office

I have been having many problems trying to get WordPerfect Office
programs (version 3.1) operating under Desqview (ver 2.41).  I am using
QEMM 6.01 and have tried just about everything.  The same problems
occur with each of the programs... Notebook, calendar, calculator.

With Desqview protection set to 3, I usually get immediate warnings
about accesses to memory outside of the program space.  With prot level
of zero things may work for a bit and then the whole system dies.  In
Notebook, files become corrupted (in memory, not on disk).

I am using Desqview on a stand-alone system and each of the WP Office
programs is being used with the /sa (stand-alone) option.  I have tried
allocating very large amounts of memory to each program and have tried
other option changes in various combinations.

Are there any known "tricks" to getting the WP Office programs working
on a stand-alone basis under Desqview?  Also, if anyone knows of a more
specific information location for this problem, please let me know.  I
have already contacted WP Corp. and they have VERY scanty information
on DV/WP-Office problems.

Thanks, John Filce ([e-mail])

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Date: 2 Dec 92 00:30:32 GMT
From: David Feustel <[e-mail]>
Subject: IBM HelpLine Solved My Floppy Disk Problem!

Ever since I started working with the 2.0 betas, I've been plagued by
sector not found errors on my floppy disk. The problem turns out to be
easily solved by popping the disk  (forcing a recalibrate) before doing
a retry. Thanks to the anonymous IBM Helpline technician who figured
this out.

Dave Feustel N9MYI <[e-mail]>

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Date: 3 Dec 92 14:15:59 GMT
From: david brown s <[e-mail]>
Subject: Internal Processing Error

I have been using OS/2 happily and successfully for a number of weeks
now. Yesterday, however, the following message appeared during boot up:

The system detected an internal processing
error at location ##0f00:141e - 0002:141e.
65535, 9051
CPS: Extent not found.
038600d1
Internal revision 6.307, 92/03/01

The system is stopped. Record the location number of the error and
contact your service representative.

Before I contact my service representative, I wonder if anyone in
netland can shed some light on my problem. Post an answer or email me
at [e-mail]

Many thanks.
    David Brown

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Date: 3 Dec 92 19:39:33 GMT
From: Andreas Pesek <[e-mail]>
Subject: Internal Processing Error (OS/2)

[e-mail] (david brown s) writes:

>I have been using OS/2 happily and successfully for a number of
>weeks now. Yesterday, however, the following message appeared
>during boot up:

[...Text deleted...]

Yesterday I got a very similar message (CPS: Extent not found, at the
same location (?)) but I had installed the new CSD.

It occured after trying to delete some files from a 4OS2 commandline
window.  During reboot CHKDSK was started and found some allocation
errors, especially with the CONTROL file (or similar file name) located
in the DELETE directory. After reboot I tried to delete some files ---
the same error occured. Several reboots showed me that any deletion of
files (from the command line or by dragging into the shredder) produced
the same system lock.

Finally I remove the DELDIR environment variable (so no deleted files
were saved in the DELETE directory) and then deleted all files in the
DELETE directory (after resetting all system,hidden,... attributes).

This worked and now my system is again stable (with DELDIR again
enabled).

Andreas Pesek
[e-mail]

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Date: 3 Dec 92 14:16:26 GMT
From: John Bodnar <[e-mail]>
Subject: I want ASCII system files.  NOW!

According to [e-mail] (ochealth):
> [e-mail] writes:
>:OS/2ers!
>:
>:I've been following the continuing problems people have with the
>:INI files, failing WPS restores after crashes and other desasters.
>:IMHO, this mess could be avoided with system files that are human
>:readable, ie. ASCII.

>The os2sys.ini and os2.ini files aren't just passive configuration files
>that just sit there. The ini files in OS/2 are dynamic filles, and that is
>why there are system calls to manipulate them. The ini files can be
>manipulated by many programs at once, and that is what it is designed for.

He's absolutely right about this.  Just out of curiosity, I tried the
INICOPY program that comes with INIMAINT.  I set it off in a full
screen OS/2 session.  I returned to the WPS where I had three folders
open and Solitaire running.  When INICOPY was finished, I shut down,
booted from floppy, and replaced the original INI files with the copies
I had made with INICOPY (I don't have the incredible growing INI file
problem; I just tried this for fun).

When I rebooted, the WPS appeared with those same three folders open.
I'll also bet that if I didn't have the SET AUTOSTART=FOLDERS line in
my CONFIG.SYS, that Solitaire would've come up running again!

OS/2 just would not be able to function the way it does with ASCII
system files.  It could probably be written to do so, but the overhead
would just be chaos.

Besides this, Windows is not entirely free of binary system files
either (no MS bashing for this, just an example).  All of the Windows
Program Manager group files (*.GRP) are binary, and I think MS did this
because they can also change dynamically, though to a lesser extent
than OS/2's INI files.

John Bodnar                          : Cut down a tree today!  Reduce your
The University of Texas at Austin    : exposure to cancer causing phenolic,
Internet: [e-mail] : terpene, PAH, and diterpene compounds
UUCP: ....!cs.utexas!ut-ccwf!jbodnar : that trees release daily by the ton!

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Date: 30 Nov 92 19:27:12 GMT
From: John Fauerbach <[e-mail]>
Subject: Max. number of files in DOS-directory?

[e-mail] (Aart de Vos) writes:
: QUESTION:
:
: "What is the maximum number of files that can be stored
:  in a MS-DOS directory?"
:
: Aart de Vos ([e-mail])

As far as I know, only the root directory has a maximum number on it.
I think it is something like 128 files.  BTW, I notice that the father
I went over about 128 files in a subdirectory, the slower it took to
load a file.

John Fauerbach

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Date: 1 Dec 92 20:18:26 GMT
From: Jim Reisert <[e-mail]>
Subject: Os/2 GA/SP and WinOS2 3.1 HELP!

[e-mail] (Tom Hatton) writes:

> Install GA, apply SP.
> Install the Winos31 part (only) of the beta.
> Re-apply SP.

You left out one important step.  If you want to run Windows 3.1
seamless on the OS/2 desktop, you must edit your AUTOEXEC.BAT and
CONFIG.SYS files, changing C:\OS2\MSDOS\WINOS2 to C:\WINOS231
(presuming that's where you installed Windows 3.1 beta).  You can then
reboot, and Windows 3.1 will run seamlessly on the desktop.  If you
don't make these changes, you'll just get Windows 3.0.

- Jim

--
James J. Reisert                Internet:  [e-mail]
Digital Equipment Corp.         UUCP:      ...decwrl!sttng.enet!reisert
146 Main Street - MLO5-2/E45  Voice:     508-493-5747
Maynard, MA  01754    FAX:       [phone]

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Date: 2 Dec 92 03:21:58 GMT
From: "James R. Skinner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Os/2 GA/SP and WinOS2 3.1 HELP!

[e-mail] (Jim Reisert) writes:

>In article  [e-mail] (Tom Hatton) writes:
>
>> Install GA, apply SP.
>> Install the Winos31 part (only) of the beta.
>> Re-apply SP.

One very important note here. Do *NOT* reboot after installing the
winos231 beta.  Simply re apply the service pack by running a:service
from a OS/2 command prompt.  If you don't you will have the wrong
kernal and chances are your machine will lock up bad.  Also make sure
that the SP does not touch the directories that contain winos231.

        James Robie Skinner        |     Jodrey School of Computer Science        [e-mail]  |  Acadia University, Wolfville, NS, Canada

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Date: 30 Nov 92 20:48:54 GMT
From: Randy Pollack <[e-mail]>
Subject: Printer control codes
Summary: how can I get them?

In the update I'm currently working on, I'd like to be able to improve
the look of the pedigree by using printer control codes to vary type
size and spacing.  The ones I need (in order of importance) are ones
that allow me to switch to:

8 lines/inch instead of 6
condensed type (approx 17 or 18 cpi)
double-wide print
double-high print (if available)
red print (if available)

I have an Epson printer and have used the Epson control codes
successfully; my big question is, how can I find out what the
corresponding control codes are for other makes/models of printers?
This information must be available somewhere, but I don't know where to
look...

Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Please use email; I'll
summarize results.

Randy Beth Pollack
[e-mail]

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Date: 3 Dec 92 13:20:03 GMT
From: John DeCarlo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Problems with the CSD, please help/note!!!

[e-mail] (John Justin Burns Jr.) writes:

>First and formost (and the one I so desperately need some sort of remedy),
>my mouse has gotten quite jerky.  It has become very hard to position it.
>I have started to learn some of the key-stroke short-cuts because of the
>lack of accuracy.  This problem is quite annoying.  ANY IDEAS WOULD BE
>GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!

The only idea I have heard from anyone so far is to complain to IBM so
they will fix it.  It isn't likely to be a hardware problem because it
happened to me, too.  I played PM Mine in the morning, installed the
SP, tried to play it again and the jerkiness of the mouse made it
impossible.  Cleaned out the mouse just in case, but to no avail.

John DeCarlo, MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA--My views are my own
Fidonet:  1:109/131  Internet:  [e-mail]

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Date: 1 Dec 92 22:54:50 GMT
From: Marc Fraioli <[e-mail]>
Subject: Some news from PC Week
Summary: Microsoft not so unstoppable after all?

A few possibly interesting news items from this weeks PC Week,
reproduced without permission:

Destiny Technology is vowing to take legal action against Microsoft in
a dispute over a Windows printing product Microsoft announced recently.
Destiny officials say they met with Microsoft in May 1991 regarding
development of Destiny's WinStyler technology for speeding printing
tasks on Windows PCs.  Destiny claims Microsoft used that and
subsequent meetings, in which the companies shared technology ideas, to
develop its Windows Printing System.  Destiny has a patent pending on
its WinStyler technology.  Microsoft officials claim their product was
already under development when they met with Destiny.

  "Windows NT seen gaining ground: Faithful undaunted by delays, few apps"
  By Amy Cortese
  LAS VEGAS- Microsoft Corp. marshalled a virtual army of independent
software vendors to display applications for its Windows family at
Comdex recently.  However, an eye to the show floor indicated its
forthcoming 32-bit Windows NT environment received limited, but
growing, support.

  Of more than 200 applications demonstrated at Microsoft's booth for
Windows 3.1, Windows for Workgroups, Windows for Pen Computing, and
Windows NT, less than 40 specifically tapped NT's 32-bit architecture.

  Nonetheless, developers and showgoers said they were not deterred by
the relatively small application support or by the increasing odds
against an early 1993 delivery for Window [sic] NT.

  "We have a lot of clients on Windows that have expressed interest in
NT," said Robert Karlin, product specialist with the Foundation group,
a Chicago-based software division of Andersen Consulting.  The group
plans to add Windows NT support to its Foundation for Cooperative
Processing CASE tools next year.

  A high level of interest in Windows NT was also evident among Comdex
attendees.  "Windows is coming on real strong," said Tom Ballew,
director of engineering for KGET-TV, a Bakersfield, Calif., television
station.

  "Microsoft in general seems to be hitting in business environments,
so as a result we're taking a hard look [at Windows]," Ballew said,
noting that NT was also on the evaluation list.

  Glenn Keough, information services director for the town of Gilbert,
Ariz., said he is looking at Windows NT as a potential server platform
when the town's offices move from the Prime Computer Inc. minicomputer
now in use.

  "Windows NT flows smoothly into the Windows desktop, which will make
it easy for our MIS staff," Keough said.

  If Windows NT and compatible applications are pushed back beyond the
currently projected ship date of mid-1993, IBM and other rivals,
including Unix system vendors such as Univel Inc. and Sun Microsystems
Inc., will make headway at Microsoft's expense, industry observers
said.

  "Every day Microsoft delays is a day competitors will have a better
chance," said Ivan Ruzic, a development manager at Computer Associates
Inc. (CA), a software maker in Islandia, N.Y.  CA previewed at Comdex
several OS/2 2.0 applications and tools, as well as its first Windows
NT offering-- the CA-Realizer development tool.

  Vaporware or not, Microsoft, of Redmond, Wash., is aggressively
courting developers for Windows NT and is attracting a growing number
of applications that will require the horsepower of a 32-bit
environment.  One such application area is development tools-- CA,
Neuron Data Inc. and Texas Instruments Inc. demonstrated tools for the
forthcoming Microsoft platform.

  "A lot of people doing high-end PC applications will benefit the most
from this," said Drew Harman, product manager at Neuron Data, a Palo
Alto, Calif., maker of portable graphical user interface development
tools.

  In moving to Windows NT, Neuron Data hopes to realize performance
gains similar to those that the company enjoyed when it ported its tool
suite to 32-bit OS/2 2.0, Harman said.  That shift resulted in a 40
percent performance boost over the company's 16-bit OS/2 product.

  Other Windows NT applications on display at the show included
database, statistical analysis, network-management, document-imaging
and engineering offerings.

  Participants in Microsoft's Solutions Channels program, which is
intended for VAR's, systems integrators, consultants and training
firms, included Andersen Consulting, Imara Research Co., Powersoft
Corp., Revelation Technologies Inc. and US LAN Systems Corp.

Some pretty interesting bits in here, including the first mention I
have seen that NT may not even ship by the already-much-delayed mid-93
date.  If this is the case, then by the time NT finally ships, OS/2 2.0
sales may have reached the 4-5 million range, and NextStep486 and
Solaris 2.0 on Intel may be shipping by that time as well (although
these latter two are shaping up to be masterpieces of vapor in the
grand Microsoft tradition as well).  Also, although ISV support for NT
is fairly strong, I get the impression from this article that it may
not be quite as strong as we have been hearing.  I'm starting to think
that we may not see Microsoft dominating the PC world as much as it
once did, and I for one think this is a good thing.

Marc Fraioli
[e-mail]           (So I'm a minimalist...)

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Date: 1 Dec 92 01:25:35 GMT
From: Aaron Wigley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Summary: TurboVision screensaver design

[e-mail] wrote:
: Thanks to all people that tried to help me.
: Almost all people had the same idea as me, i.e. to check idle time
: in TApplication::idle() and to reset it with TApplication::getEvent().
:
: THIS WILL NOT WORK because it will clear the screen if the computer
: is calculating something for more than x minutes.
: I want to check the REAL IDLE TIME (the time the computer does actually
: nothing).

The method we've suggested could be used for this. Usually for a screen
saver to detect idle times, keyboard/mouse inputs are detected. Why not
detect other events as well to indicate that the computer is being
used.  Say we have an event class ('Busy'), whenever the program is
calculating something, it broadcasts a 'busy' event, informing the
screen saver to not blank the screen just yet.

Opinions?

: What I have in mind for the moment is to add to the idle counter
: the time actually spent in the idle function.
: Does anybody see a problem to this ?

Where is the Idle counter cleared ?

The Wigs of Oz,
Aaron Wigley

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Date: 1 Dec 92 22:38:57 GMT
From: Joseph Wei-Cheng Ku <[e-mail]>
Subject: What's going on now?!?

I recently bought a Pro-audio Spectrum 16 card and now, my computer is
acting very funny.

Once every few minutes, my screen will just go blank seemingly for no
apparent reason. no cursor, no nothing.This happens especially when I'm
in the WPS. It also happens while I'm in a dos session, but less
freqeuntly.  However, the keyboard and drives works when it goes blank.

The only thing I can do when the screen blanked out is either to
re-boot (ctrl-alt-del) or switch to another session (eg, do a ctrl-esc
from a dos session) The only thing that I can think of is that there is
some interupt comflict. But I haven't find anything that can be wrong.

I'm in 1024x768x256 mode, using the tseng driver from SP.  The sound
card works like it should, I believe.  For the soundcard, the DMA is
set to 3, IRQ 7, joystick disabled.  I have mouse on com1, serial port
on com2, modem on com4. I never use the com2 and 4 simutaneously.

Can anyone out there suggest what might be the problem?  Please help
me.  Thank you.

-jk

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Date: 1 Dec 92 17:16:30 GMT
From: guest@ncucs
Subject: Why "Unable to control A20 line!" happens?

   I have updated my DOS version to 5.0 recently, but when I write the
statement "device = c:\dos\himem.sys" in the config.sys file, the error
"Unable to control A20 line!" happened. I have tried to add
/A20CONTROL:OFF/ [ON] to test it, but it does not work. I have also
changed the XCMOS configuration to enable or disable the A20 line, but
it also failed.

   Can someone do me a favor? Thanks a lot.

 Yao-Sheng Cheng
 e-mail: [e-mail]

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Date: 29 Nov 92 11:03:06 GMT
From: Louis Mandelstam <[e-mail]>
Subject: Why is ESC special, and, how can I catch one?


 > Why is the ESC key used as a break key in so many
 > programs?  Is it buffered?
 > Does it set a flag? Is it stored in BIOS RAM like the
 > shift, num lock, ...
 > keys?

It's a normal key like all the others, returning ASCII 27. The reason
we use it to get out of a program is its name ESCAPE, as in escape out
of the program, window, section whatever. ;-)  I presume the key was
originally put there for something like this.

 > find documentation on this subject.  It is amazing to
 > watch how promptly
 > Norton's programs (and others) acknowledge the ESC key
 > --- they surely cannot
 > be scanning the keyboard for 1B.

1Bh is a break, which is generated by ^C or the Break key. Since it's
an interrupt, software doesn't scan for it anyway, meaning in fact if
we did use 1Bh it SHOULD be almost immediate.  (From a user's point
very immediate, machine code executes faster than you sometimes expect)

 > I would like to incorporate the `esc capturing'
 > feature into a couple of
 > my ms-dos programs, any help is appreciated.  Thank-
 > you, Darin Latimer.

While waiting for input, or executing some other kind of loop, keep
checking to see if there's a key waiting in the buffer, if yes, and
it's ASCII 27, ESC's been pressed.

OR hook into the keyboard interrupt 9, and watch out for ESC's
scancode...  I think it's 1.

Cheers
The Poltergeist

INTERNET: [e-mail]  -  Louis Mandelstam.
PO Box 4574, Randburg, 2125.  South Africa.
"Even if I *had* an employer, this would probably not be his opinion."

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Date: 1 Dec 92 22:09:37 GMT
From: Shorrock*Glenn <[e-mail]>
Subject: Windows 3.1 "Refresh" to cost money

The following information comes from the IBM document "os2suprt.doc" which
I just downloaded from the IBM Canada BBS in Montreal. (N.B. The caps in
"CHARGEABLE" are IBM's.)

  OS/2 2.01 MANUFACTURING REFRESH

  IBM  is planning to fully refresh OS/2 2.00 as an updated release,
i.e., OS/2 2.01, in 1Q/93. This will include all of the fixes to that
point in time, all of the new video drivers, including SVGA and XGA-2
as well as support for all of the new hardware, the 32-Bit Graphics
Engine and Windows 3.1 support. This is planned to be a CHARGEABLE
upgrade to all existing OS/2 users.

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Date: 4 Dec 92 03:21:18 GMT
From: Steven Hayes <[e-mail]>
Subject: Windows 3.1 "Refresh" to cost money

[e-mail] (Shorrock*Glenn) writes:

>  OS/2 2.01 MANUFACTURING REFRESH

>  IBM  is planning to fully refresh OS/2 2.00 as an updated release,
>i.e., OS/2 2.01, in 1Q/93. This will include all of the fixes to that
>point in time, all of the new video drivers, including SVGA and XGA-2
>as well as support for all of the new hardware, the 32-Bit Graphics
>Engine and Windows 3.1 support. This is planned to be a CHARGEABLE
>upgrade to all existing OS/2 users.

I'm not sure I believe this. Maybe its true for Canada, but here in
Australia, there is going to be a second Service Pack, and while I'm
not certain of it's contents, I'm pretty sure it includes the Windows
3.1 upgrade.

I'd expect OS/2 2.01 to be available as a complete package with
Windowds 3.1 support to be chargeable though. Perhaps IBM intends to
have both a SP with Win 31 _and_ an optional complete upgrade to 2.01
(Makes sense to me...)

EOC (end of conjecture ;-))

Steve

   Steven Hayes                                    |  [e-mail]
   Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology (RMIT)  |  [phone]

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Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 20:30:04 EST
From: Benjamin Olasov <[e-mail]>
Subject: Graphical tool for file maintenance over dialup links

Perhaps the some of the well informed recipients of this list will have
some insights into this issue, which may possibly be a concern for
others.

There are computer accounts I access in most cases with a dialup link
using VT100 emulation.  I keep wishing for a tree structured
point-and-shoot utility for doing file and directory maintenance from a
remote terminal.  Does someone know of such a tool for either DOS or
Unix?  Perhaps our friends at FSF have come up with something along
these lines?

Thanks,
Ben Olasov
[e-mail]

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