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- From: kolstad@cae.wisc.edu (Joel Kolstad)
- Subject: Re: The "high price" of the HP48!
- Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
- Date: 31 Dec 92 18:16:59 CST
- Message-ID: <1992Dec31.181700.8722@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
- References: <PHR.92Dec25160413@napa.telebit.com> <1992Dec26.053625.17951@doug.cae.wisc.edu> <PHR.92Dec30222224@napa.telebit.com>
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- In article <PHR.92Dec30222224@napa.telebit.com> phr@telebit.com (Paul Rubin) writes:
- >In article <1992Dec26.053625.17951@doug.cae.wisc.edu> kolstad@cae.wisc.edu (Joel Kolstad) writes:
- >
- > Have you ever used a HP-48? They're far from a "gross kludge."
- > Given a choice between a HP-95LX and a HP-48SX for doing math work, I would
- > pick a HP-48 much of the time. Consider that the software for the HP-48
- > has been specifically designed for doing math/engineering/science work,
- > whereas the program you run on your PC is running on the same machine that
- > was designed to play Lemmings. In this light, it looks more like the PCs
- > are kludges...
- >
- >1. Remember the original post said ALL CURRICULA. This includes art,
- >music, history, literature, etc. as well as engineering. Computers
- >are becoming important in all these fields--for text formatting
- >if nothing else--but machines like the HP-48 (and even 95LX) are
- >mostly useless in all nontechnical fields. (Possible exceptions
- >are business, economics, etc.).
-
- Oops... ok, I missed the "all curricula" part. I certainly agree that,
- say, musicians aren't going to be needing HP-48's as standard equipment
- anytime soon.
-
- >I got the 42s more recently and feel it is overkill,
- >though I got a good deal on it, from someone here on the net.
-
- Ok. Personally, though, I wouldn't mind a handheld Cray. :-)
-
- >A 48 still seems to me like a solution looking
- >for a problem.
-
- I can accept the fact that this is how you see the 48. For myself and many
- others, I think, we've found appropriate problems.
-
- >A 48 seems like a fun toy and I'd buy one if someone offered me one
- >cheap enough, but I feel it is a disservice to most students to
- >suggest that a real computer is not a better investment.
-
- You're probably going to get upset if I suggest everyone ought to own a
- computer, aren't you? :-)
-
- I agree that everyone should probably have _access_ to word processing
- facilities before they worry about getting a calculator. Doing great
- calculations is useless if you can't write them up very well... At least
- at my college here, though, engineers have access to zillions of PCs,
- Macs, and Sun and HP workstations. Everybody who lives in the University
- dormitories has access to Macs. Given the access to computers provided by
- the college and the cost differential between decent computers ($2500) and
- decent calculators ($250), I think some students would be better off buying
- a calculator first. Having University supplied calculators for everyone
- isn't very practical if they're as powerful as a HP-48, of course. On the
- other hand, I'm all for universities having required calculators which can
- be purchased by students at less than retail cost.
-
- ---Joel Kolstad
-
- P.S. -- The prices above are somewhat speculative. "Decent" computers could
- range all the way from $1500 386SX boxes to $10000 workstations, whereas
- "decent" calculators could range from $100 TI-81's to $500 fully-outfitted
- HP-48's.
-