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- From: kolstad@cae.wisc.edu (Joel Kolstad)
- Subject: Re: HP48 batteries bug?
- Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
- Date: 26 Dec 92 20:39:53 CST
- Message-ID: <1992Dec26.203953.10639@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
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- In article <Bzw0ys.GEo@news.iastate.edu> twh18@isuvax.iastate.edu writes:
- >Oops! Bateries
- >are low?! I tried to put the intensity of the display darker by
- >press <On> and + together. The screen became dark enough that I
- >no longer can see the menu. Now, that's ridiclous. If it has enough
- >power to turn the intensity so dark, how could it be low on batteries.
-
- The 48 has a well regulated power supply that'll most certainly keep the
- LCD voltages (which directly affect the constrast) up to their nominal
- levels even after your 48 will turn off immediately after being turned on.
- (The 48 has two battery level indicators; the first is the one you see.
- The second one [which is set lower than the first] causes the OS to turn
- the 48 off immediately.)
-
- >On my TI-85, it has like 10 levels of intensity, and each
- >intensity can be separated by another 3 sublevels of intensity, together
- >that's 30 levels of intensity. When I had to turn the intensity on
- >my TI-85 to the highest intensity setting and the screen is still dim,
- >I know I need replace batteries on TI.
-
- Yeech!
-
- > Another thing is that on my TI-85, it has a Cell backup battery,
- >which is used to maintain the memory while the calculator is turned off/or
- >during the main batteries changing process. However, I didn't catch this
- >on my HP48. The HP's instruction book
- > neverd mentioned anything about the secondary
- >battery nor it said about replace it other than replace the main
- >3 AAA(this sounds may like triple A - Anti-Aircraft-Artrilly, but it's not:)
- >batteries. The only thing that the book said is that replace the batteries
- >in 2 min to avoid memory loss. So, does anyone know what keeps the memory
- >while the HP48's batteries are being changed? If there's a secondary
- >battery inside, when and how are we going to replace it?
-
- There's a capacitor instead. If you take out the batteries and press "ON",
- you'll kill your memory. :-) The two minute warning in the manual is
- actually quite conservative (as it should be); people have reported having
- batteries out a lot longer than that and not having the 48 go brain dead.
-
- > In addition, does keep a lots of programs on the HP uses considerable
- >more power? (say you have like 20K in RAM, would it uses much more power
- >than usual?)
-
- Nah. If you have plug in expansion cards, those (of course) suck a little
- extra power.
-
- When you're staring at the stack display, your 48 is in what's called
- "light sleep" mode: The CPU is off, but the display controller is on.
- Pressing any key (as well as alarms, etc.) "wakes up" the CPU.
-
- Games such as Tetris keep the CPU on all the time, which uses considerably
- more power than just using the machine for adding numbers.
-
- > Last thing (yeah, finally:), would it be a good idea to leave the
- >HP48 on or just turn it off if you know you are going to use it in 5-8 minutes?
- >This may sound stupid, but I just love my HP48 so much that I don't want the
- >On key to "die first" while other keys still functional:)
-
- Actually, I'd be more concerned about the "Enter" key. :-)
-
- For 5-8 minutes, I think you might as well leave your 48 on. (Especially
- because the turn on/off delay gets annoying if you have a lot of RAM in
- your 48.) The OS will do the auto-shutoff thing in about 10 minutes, I
- think.
-
- > Man, wouldn't it be great if the HP48 had a backslide case on like
- >the ones on TI-81/85?
-
- Hmm... not a bad idea. Too bad the grooves on the 48 are nowhere near the
- middle of the casing.
-
- ---Joel Kolstad
-