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- From: glenn@wheat-chex.ai.mit.edu (Glenn A. Adams)
- Newsgroups: comp.std.internat
- Subject: Re: Dumb Americans (was INTERNATIONALIZATION: JAPAN, FAR EAST)
- Date: 2 Jan 1993 05:57:17 GMT
- Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
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- In article <1i13rrINNars@rodan.UU.NET> avg@rodan.UU.NET (Vadim Antonov) writes:
-
- >Somehow i had introduced my "own" cyrillic encoding and it lived (and
- >still lives) and was used by a lot of people (it became obsolete nearly
- >at the time it was approved as a national standard). The company i worked
- >before managed to create a totally bilingual family of Unix-like systems --
- >something unheard of in the West.
-
- You're uninformed. Try looking at Xerox Viewpoint (West European,
- East European, Greek, Arabic, Hebrew, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, et al);
- try looking at BB&N Slate (West & East European, Greek, Hebrew, Arabic,
- Korean, Thai). There are others: Nota Bene, Multilingual Scholar,
- AlKatiib, etc.
-
- Tell me how to sort Tibetan, Burmese, Khmer, and Japanese, providing
- all established culturally expected orderings. After you've done
- this, let me know whether you think a character set can handle the
- burden of correct sorting. Its not that this isn't an admirable goal;
- its just that it is untenable given the overall design goals
- of Unicode -- or any other character set that could stand a chance of
- becoming a universal character set standard, and not being horribly
- inefficient.
-
- You might want to read a paper entitled "Collating Unicode Data"
- by Alain LaBonte, Ministry of Communications, Quebec, before
- arguing further. It is contained in the proceedings of the Unicode
- Implementors Workshop. It will verily destroy all the arguments
- you've offered so far.
-
- If you are interested in a paper discussing the architecture of a
- multilingual toolkit in which sorting *is* handled, and which *does*
- support Unicode, and which *does* facilitate language tagging, then
- see the file /pub/mlt2-overview.ps.Z (a compressed postscript file) on
- METIS.COM [140.186.33.40] by anonymous FTP. [If you have no FTP access,
- let me know and I can uuencode and email it.]
-
- Glenn Adams
-