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- From: sjm@bcrki65.bnr.ca (Stuart MacMartin)
- Subject: Re: Pointer comparisons
- Message-ID: <1992Dec22.140212.12579@bcrka451.bnr.ca>
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- References: <BzDs2x.wA@frumious.uucp> <1992Dec17.151642.9954@bcrka451.bnr.ca> <1992Dec19.001851.22116@microsoft.com>
- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 14:02:12 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec19.001851.22116@microsoft.com> jimad@microsoft.com (Jim Adcock) writes:
- >In article <1992Dec17.151642.9954@bcrka451.bnr.ca> sjm@bcrki65.bnr.ca (Stuart MacMartin) writes:
- >|>4) If two pointers p and q (of the same type) are obtained through
- >|> sequences of "normal" operations, then
- >|>
- >|> p == q <==> p and q point to the same object
- >|
- >|I could not find this statement in the current wording. Is there a
- >|reason why the current wording is weaker than this?
- >
- >Again, a simple counterexample is as follows:
- >
- [Class A with no state; class B is derived from A and contains an A.
- Compare pointer to base A of B against pointer to member A of B]
-
- 1. I would be annoyed if there was gratuitous padding here.
- I want to be able to have T_interface and T_implementation : public T_interface.
-
- 2. Perhaps there is a philosophical argument that might resolve this issue.
- If two objects have the same interface but no state (or constant state), and
- they have the same lifetime, are they in fact the same object? Or, perhaps,
- can they be treated as if they are the same object?
-
- The rule about new returning different addresses is needed because the objects
- have different lifetimes and so part of their state (their existence) differs,
- and the objects can be observed to be different. In your example, I see no way
- of determining which A is which other than by looking at the pointers. Can I
- even tell if there really are two As? Mightn't one have been optimized away?
-
- Maybe someone who feels strongly that there is only one 1, or conversely that
- there are an infinite number of identical 1s can comment. Seems like a
- similar concept.
-
- Stuart
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