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- From: nancy@murphy.ICS.UCI.EDU (Nancy Leveson)
- Subject: Re: ACM SIGSOFT '93: Foundations of Software Engineering (CFP)
- Message-ID: <9212220657.aa29683@Paris.ics.uci.edu>
- In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 21 Dec 92 14:26:01 +0000.
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- Reply-To: nancy@ics.uci.edu
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- Date: 22 Dec 92 14:57:56 GMT
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- It's interesting noting the professional affiliations of the people
- organizing this conference:
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- University: 12
- Government: 1
- Industrial Research: 2
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- Exactly what was intended -- it was done on purpose.
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- It bothers me that there are not more people from industry involved
- with this conference, particularly since the goal is to "help
- establish software engineering as a viable engineering discipline."
- After all, practicing software engineers are mostly in industrial
- settings.
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- Note the title of the conference: "Foundations of Software Engineering"
- ^^^^^^^^^^^
- The reason for starting this conference is to provide a forum for
- *researchers* to present and discuss software engineering research results.
- ICSE used to provide that forum, but researchers are increasingly unwilling
- to submit their papers. I've been on ICSE program committees where industry
- members argued that no paper should be accepted that was not about something
- immediately useful and relevant to them, and the papers were rejected.
- Researchers are increasingly submitting their papers to conferences and
- workshops on specialized topics, which limits the amount of crosstalk
- across subfields.
-
- I presented a keynote talk/paper at ICSE in May entitled "High-Pressure
- Steam Engines and Computer Software" in which I argued that we need to
- establish our scientific foundations, and I was also involved in advocating
- the startup of FSE. To make software engineering into a viable engineering
- discipline, we need to build a scientific base and use scientific methods
- in our research. I'm not really sure that this conference will fly since
- there are not a lot of people even doing such foundational research -- it
- has not been encouraged or such researchers are not willing to say they are
- in software engineering anymore. There is spreading feeling in universities
- that software engineering has no hard content, and doctoral students are
- being encouraged to work in other areas. Literally dozens of conferences
- exist to provide information for practicing software engineers; let the
- researchers have one conference where they do not have to justify the
- immediate practicality and applicability of what they are doing.
-
- Nancy Leveson
-
- P.S. If anyone would like a latex (or dvi) version of my keynote
- address, you can get it by anonymous ftp from ics.uci.edu -- it is
- in the subdirectory pub/tcas. The paper has been submitted to CACM
- for publication; I would appreciate feedback if you do read it.
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