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- From: jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond)
- Subject: Re: Stupid Licenses (YUCK!)
- Message-ID: <h4tr-w-@dixie.com>
- Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 05:58:17 GMT
- Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access. The Mouth of the South.
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- bhayden@teal.csn.org (Bruce Hayden) writes:
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- >The question is how much longer can we as a society accept buggy software.
- >Sure - I know as well as anyone that with present technology it is almost
- >impossible to get all bugs out. What I am advocating is that if you release
- >software with (too many) bugs in it, you may face a competent plaintiff's
- >attorney who will use your failure to document your attempts at software
- >quality control against you in showing negligence.
-
- "We as a society" doesn't have a thing to do with it. How each of
- us tolerates bugs vs cost is the issue. I suggest that most of us
- can tolerate the current level of commercial software bugs pretty
- much forever. For example, I currently use some of the most buggy
- software on the face of the earth in my business (DOS and Windows).
- Nontheless I know how to work around most of the bugs with little
- trouble and produce a magazine using Windows-based tools. Would I
- like a bug-free environment? Sure. Could I afford it? Not likely.
-
- >Most everyone seems to be of the opinion that since everyone is doing it
- >(releasing buggy software), it is ok (despite knowing how to at least
- >minimize the number of bugs). Other areas of tort law have discarded this
- >type of reasoning. Instead, the law seems to take the position that if
- >you know how to mitigate a problem, and don't (especially for economic
- >reasons), you are taking a gamble that the money saved will be greater
- >than the money lost in litigation. You thus have no reason to complain
- >when you are found liable for your failure to mitigate the problem.
-
- Yep, that's just what we need, Bruce, is for the lawyers to make software
- as unaffordable as the lawyers and the goverment have cars. Do you
- REALLY want to have to take out a 5 year loan to buy a word processor
- the same way you have to do to buy an econobox these days? Suppose,
- perhaps, that some of us would rather spend a bit less money and NOT
- pay for exhaustive proofs of correctness? This will be like everything
- else that lawyers stick their slimey noses into - thoroughly fucked up
- and we'll all be worse off for it.
-
- John
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