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- From: leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)
- Newsgroups: comp.security.misc,comp.org.eff.talk
- Subject: Re: Stupid Licenses (YUCK!)
- Message-ID: <1992Dec29.002107.4196@qiclab.scn.rain.com>
- Date: 29 Dec 92 00:21:07 GMT
- Article-I.D.: qiclab.1992Dec29.002107.4196
- References: <bhayden.724690634@teal> <1992Dec19.023609.26000@news2.cis.umn.edu> <bhayden.724865911@teal> <TDRVB3JX@cc.swarthmore.edu> <bhayden.724947398@teal>
- Reply-To: Leonard.Erickson@f51.n105.z1.fidonet.org
- Organization: SCN Research/Qic Laboratories of Tigard, Oregon.
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- bhayden@teal.csn.org (Bruce Hayden) writes:
-
- >eoliver@ralph.cs.haverford.edu (Erik Oliver) writes:
-
- >>Because of the variety of IBM-Compatible products out there testing for
- >>every configuration is unrealistic, if not impossible. Even in the Mac
- >>world, there are problems that occur because of interactions between
- >>INITs and CDEVs with applications. Are these bugs?
-
- >I think that depends on how common the hardware and hardware combination
- >is. If the hardware is anywhere close to common, then I would contend
- >that it is a reasonable to test a major product on all of the common
- >hardware.
-
- The problem is that the *combinations* are unmanageable. Say the 10 most
- common motherboards, the 10 most common video boards, the 10 most common
- TSRs. Plus the 10 most common add-on devices. That gives you *ten thousand*
- combinations, assuming only one selection from each class. But some can
- exist in multiples. And you actually need to test for more than the
- 10 most common in some classes.
-
- It *isn't* practical to test even *most* interactions. All you can reasonably
- do is test the some "standard" configurations. (Ones that are known to
- be "the standard" that everything else is supposed to work like)
-
- >I also would contend that once you have serious problems with a specified
- >hardware combination (with previous releases or products) then you may
- >potentially have a duty to duplicate that hardware combination for future
- >QC testing.
-
- Or just list that setup as one that the software *won't* work with.
-
- >Obviously, you have a resource problem here. IBM can afford to basically
- >test almost anything imaginable (so why didn't OS/2 work on many non-IBM
- >platforms?) A small company can probably only afford to test on a limited
- >number of platforms and combinations.
-
- >I disagree. We have the capability today to set an acceptable bug level
- >before the release, then not release until we have reached that level.
- >That isn't happening in many cases. Either we aren't setting the level,
- >or if we are, we are shipping before we get to that point.
-
- I know of one company that is trying to do this, and you should hear
- the users scream about the fact that the new version isn't ready.
- --
- Leonard Erickson leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com
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