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- From: karl@ddsw1.mcs.com (Karl Denninger)
- Subject: Re: Why not automatically do reverse domains?
- Summary: Consider a few other cases
- Message-ID: <C033uA.7CB@ddsw1.mcs.com>
- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 18:10:56 GMT
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- References: <1gr3hjINNnjk@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> <1992Dec21.195422.19764@eecs.nwu.edu> <BzvrG3.6t4@boulder.parcplace.com>
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- In article <BzvrG3.6t4@boulder.parcplace.com> imp@boulder.parcplace.com (Warner Losh) writes:
- >In article <1992Dec21.195422.19764@eecs.nwu.edu> phil@pex.eecs.nwu.edu
- >(William LeFebvre) writes:
- >>("delta.eecs.nwu.edu. IN CNAME eecs.nwu.edu.") since I do not
- >>want the domain name to be the machine's canonical name (that would
- >>screw up other things).
- >
- >What does that screw up. I'm curious....
-
- Uh, I can think of a number of things (including possibly mail routing) and
- the fact that its not generally a "good thing" to have a domain name be a
- canonical host name.
-
- The other pathological case in which this is bad news is where the subnet
- mask is not a byte-boundary. Consider the following (ACTUAL case from my
- site):
-
- 192.160.127 - Class C address assigned to my domain (MCS.COM)
-
- Subnet mask used here: 255.255.255.128 - Note the odd alignment!
-
- However, 127.160.192.in-addr.arpa IS byte-aligned, and due to the way PTR
- domains work (the in-addr.arpa botch) it HAS to be. Therefore, if I were to
- delegate control of the "high order" subnet of my class "C" to someone else,
- how would they do the PTR records?
-
- The answer is -- they couldn't.
-
- This is one of the problems with PTR records, by the way. If you use a
- non-byte subnet mask you have problems coordinating these records. My
- solution (since I give out the high order addresses to those persons who
- want to SL/IP or PPP into my system and don't have their own address space)
- is to require them to tell me what their reverse map >really< is, and I have
- to maintain it here. (I have to do >some< kind of bit-aligned mask for
- "foreign" users as I want to filter packets from them to prevent them from
- going places I don't want them to).
-
- Note that I currently am not on the direct cable. But I will be within a
- couple of months with luck, and then the problem is "real" (right now I act
- like it is having been indoctrinated into doing things this way ;-)
-
- --
- Karl Denninger (karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM, <well-connected>!ddsw1!karl)
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