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- From: leichter@lrw.com (Jerry Leichter)
- Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
- Subject: re: MAIL problem (NOT newmail count :)
- Message-ID: <9212311443.AA20444@uu3.psi.com>
- Date: 31 Dec 92 13:21:12 GMT
- Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU
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- Organization: The Internet
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- Hey, I have a MAIL question, and it doesn't involve the NEWMAIL
- count.. :-)
-
- Anyway, it's nothing tragic, but I've been wondering for a long time
- now why we end up with a lot of MAIL.LIS files in our [SYSLOST]
- directories. Here's my assumption based on what little detective work
- I've been motivated to do: The MAIL.LIS files are temporary files
- used when PRINTing from MAIL... however, for some reason the MAIL.LIS
- file doesn't get deleted properly. More like a SET FILE/REMOVE thing.
-
- When mail spools files for printing, it never enters them into a directory in
- the first place - it's not a matter of SET FILE/REMOVE, since there is no
- entry to remove! If you did a SHOW QUE/FUL on such a file, you'd see a
- display like the following:
-
- MAIL LEICHTER 818 5 Printing
- Submitted 31-DEC-1992 09:07 /FLAG=ONE /FORM=PORTRAIT (stock=DEFAULT)
- /PRIORITY=100 /NOTRAILER
- File: _TOPS$DUA0:[]MAIL.LIS; (printing) /DELETE
-
- Note the lack of a directory name in the file specification.
-
- The problem arises that we have quotas enabled on our user disks and
- it wreaks havoc with a user if (s)he prints a lot from MAIL.
-
- Is this normal? Or do we have something set up strangely? Is there
- another way around it besides routinely cleaning the [SYSLOST]
- directories of MAIL.LIS files?
-
- It's "normal" in the sense that the software isn't doing anything unusual;
- but it's NOT normal in that these files should not be hanging around. The
- spooler should be deleting them after they are printed.
-
- It's hard to know WHY these files aren't being deleted. You might want to
- take a closer look at them the next time you get a bunch. Were they all
- created at about the same time? Did something happen on the system at about
- that time (like a crash?)
-
- Some experimentation with MAIL seems to indicated that it doesn't actually
- create an output file until you exit (or type PRINT/PRINT or PRINT/NOW), so
- the problem is not something like people typing PRINT, then CTRL/Y and STOP -
- although I suppose they MIGHT be able to cause the problem by noticing that
- MAIL was taking a long time to exit, realizing that was because of some
- forgotten PRINT command, then saying "Oh, I didn't really what that printed!")
-
- Hmmm... now that I think of it, I don't use PRINT/DELETE a whole
- lot... is this something connected with the queueing system and not
- MAIL? I don't see anything about PRINT in the docs that would nail it
- down one way or another.
-
- The files that MAIL spools are always temporary copies, and are always marked
- /DELETE. Of course, a user COULD modify the queue entry, causing the file to
- stick around. If people are under the misapprehension that the /DELETE on
- the queue entry means that the ORIGINAL MESSAGE will be deleted, they might
- fall into this trap. But somehow I doubt it.
- -- Jerry
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