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- From: jsue@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey L. Sue)
- Subject: Re: HELP!!! Security problem for gurus.
- References: <1h9e1nINN1c9@gap.caltech.edu> <1992Dec23.194607.26032@ncsa.uiuc.edu> <1hgtgpINNfjb@gap.caltech.edu>
- Message-ID: <1992Dec30.205836.3909@ncsa.uiuc.edu>
- Originator: jsue@pluto.ncsa.uiuc.edu
- Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner)
- Organization: The Dow Chemical Company
- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 20:58:36 GMT
- Lines: 56
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- In article <1hgtgpINNfjb@gap.caltech.edu> carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
- >In article <1992Dec23.194607.26032@ncsa.uiuc.edu>, jsue@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey L. Sue) writes:
- >=In article <1h9e1nINN1c9@gap.caltech.edu> carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
- >=>In article <1992Dec22.161918.9033@ncsa.uiuc.edu>, jsue@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey L. Sue) writes:
- >=>>Now that's a creative way to do it. Just hope MAIL doesn't decide to use
- >=>>that MAILbigfilename.MAI sometime - though it may check for this and handle
- >=>>it correctly, I've no idea how to test this. (besides I'm sure that the
- >=>>possibility is quite small)
- >=>
- >=>Easy: Just pick a date that's before NOW.
- >=Hmm....
- >=MAIL$09A8BDA800050096.MAI doesn't like it has anything to do with a date.
- >
- >Well, that's because you don't know anything about what you're talking about,
- >now isn't it? The numerical part of the name consists of:
- >
- > The hexadecimal representation of the second and third words of the
- > time the message was received;
- >
- > A four-character hexadecimal code identifying the sort of filename this
- > is (the format changed between VMS v4 and VMS v5);
- >
- > The hexadecimal representation of the high order word of the time the
- > message was received.
- >
- >So the numerical part of the filename (09A8BDA800050096) refers to system time
- >009609A8BDA80000 or thereabouts (the low-order word of the system time isn't
- >used, so the granularity is to about a centisecond), which translates to:
- >14-SEP-1992 11:24:44.
-
- Good information... where is this documented? That was the point of the
- original flame: that others don't take the time to look it up in the
- documentation. Again, you are correct that I don't know what I'm talking
- about here, which is why the question was raised, don't you think? Questions
- are otherwise known as queries, and often used (at least by me) to find out
- information not known. Remember, I did look through the documentation and
- this info was *not* easily found.
-
- >
- >=Gee... some of us have *real* jobs, some of which doesn't even apply to VMS.
- >=Actually, I know quite a bit of how VMS works, however little things like
- >=how MAIL determines what "bignumber" to use is of little value to me.
- >
- >I see. You just couldn't be troubled to pay attention this issue last came up
- >(a couple of weeks ago) and was discussed in detail?
-
- Alas, scanning for information on Internet (or elsewhere) is not what I
- get paid for most - it's results for my customers. If I don't get to
- the news services for a few days a bunch of messages get marked as read
- due to the lack of time... and I still never catch up.
-
-
- --
- -----
- Jeff Sue
- - All opinions are mine - (and you can't have any, nya nya nya)
-