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- From: mgrthh@rosevc.rose-hulman.edu (Thomas H. Hopson)
- Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
- Subject: Re: MAIL problem (NOT newmail count :)
- Date: 30 Dec 1992 19:00:32 GMT
- Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
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- References: <1992Dec30.122948.13315@bsu-ucs>
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- In article <1992Dec30.122948.13315@bsu-ucs>, 00mjstum@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (Matthew J. Stum) writes:
-
- >Anyway, it's nothing tragic, but I've been wondering for a long time now
- >why we end up with a lot of MAIL.LIS files in our [SYSLOST] directories.
- >Here's my assumption based on what little detective work I've been
- >motivated to do: The MAIL.LIS files are temporary files used when PRINTing
- >from MAIL... however, for some reason the MAIL.LIS file doesn't get deleted
- >properly. More like a SET FILE/REMOVE thing.
- >
- >The problem arises that we have quotas enabled on our user disks and it
- >wreaks havoc with a user if (s)he prints a lot from MAIL.
-
- The MAIL.LIS files are created when a user issues a PRINT command from
- within MAIL. The MAIL utility creates a "temporary file" that it only knows
- by file ID; the file is not stored in any directory. It issues the equivalent
- of a PRINT/DELETE (using, of course, the $SNDJBC system service) giving the
- file ID of the file it created.
-
- If the print job is deleted or for whatever reason doesn't complete, the file
- doesn't get deleted. Since it doesn't exist in a directory, it is really
- difficult for people to even know that they own the file, much less delete it.
-
- >Is this normal? Or do we have something set up strangely? Is there
- >another way around it besides routinely cleaning the [SYSLOST] directories
- >of MAIL.LIS files?
-
- It is normal in the sense that it seems to happen a lot, especially if users
- print a lot of mail, and especially if print jobs get deleted a lot. There
- really isn't a *nice* way of cleaning up the files, especially since you've
- lost track of (never really knew) the file IDs of the files being created.
-
- >Hmmm... now that I think of it, I don't use PRINT/DELETE a whole lot... is
- >this something connected with the queueing system and not MAIL? I don't
- >see anything about PRINT in the docs that would nail it down one way or
- >another.
-
- It's not a fault of PRINT/DELETE nor of the queueing system. It's really a
- fault of MAIL for deciding to use a "temporary" file when the possibility
- exists that the file may not be printed and deleted immediately.
-
- --
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