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- From: evans1@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (Dan Evans)
- Subject: Re: A Frank Discussion on Piracy (Flames, Anyone? : -P )
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- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:15:10 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec21.204309.20046@cs.odu.edu> jdp@osric.cs.odu.edu (JD Powell) writes:
- >
- >Uhh ... looks like we have an interesting discussion going on here.
- >Several people have indicated they don't condone piracy, and don't
- >buy the "try it before you buy it" rationale, because of the rampant
- >and lenient return policies of the vendors they deal with. Please post
- >the names of these vendors for the rest of us. I've had several (1 is
- >too many) situations where I was refused the right to return software within
- >days of purchasing it. While this is not reason enough for me to pirate,
- >it IS sufficient reason to change vendors. Who are the good guys? And
- >we're talking mail order here too.
- >
-
-
- Egghead Software is the one I mentioned in my previous post. But another thing
- has also occurred to me.
-
- Not wanting to speak for Citibank (how's that for a disclaimer :-) ), anytime
- I have used their card to purchase anything from a vendor that was reluctant
- to satisfy me as a customer they have been willing to look into the matter
- and see that my account is credited for the purchase as long as I have first
- returned the stuff to the vendor. Since money talks in this country, the
- credit card companies have considerable say as to what the vendors that
- accept their cards will or won't do. If you're worried, use a good name
- credit card and the bank (if not the retailer) is usually willing to see
- that you are satisfied.
-
- I think that's why at least a few retailers are starting to do this. They
- figure that any way you look at it, refusing a return is a losing situation
- for them. Unless you pay cash, you can get your money back one way or another.
- The refusal just generates bad publicity for the retailer.
-
-
-
- Also Super Dave made the comment that copying promoted the production of
- demos (not an exact quote). I think it's more a matter of:
-
- "It's better for us to put out this demo because, if someone likes it, they
- will most likely buy it regardless of price, otherwise we have to deal with
- retailer complaints about high returns on one of our programs."
-
- People will buy a program sooner instead of waiting for the price to drop
- a little and make it "worth the risk" and on the other side of the coin
- processing the return costs them money too.
-
- I didn't buy Wing Commander until they dropped it to $20 bucks. I like the
- game and would have payed more for it. The reason I did not was because
- I tryed it on a store demo PC that happened to be running it and since I
- had nothing to refer to for flight control (aka. a demo readme file)
- the game play was "unproductive". Had I used a demo with a flight control
- cheat sheet I would bought it at $50 instead of $20. That is not intended to
- be a rationalization for anything. But it is the truth.
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