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- From: lucio@phyrql.Alt.ZA (Lucio de Re)
- Subject: Re: About the ACK ANSI compiler... [not the
- Message-ID: <1992Dec31.105026.3520@phyrql.Alt.ZA>
- Reply-To: lucio@proxima.Alt.ZA
- Organization: MegaByte Digital Communications
- References: <1992Dec30.052435.28478@udel.edu> <103420@netnews.upenn.edu> <samw.725777813@bucket>
- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 10:50:26 GMT
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- samw@bucket.rain.com (Sam Warden) writes:
- >
- >What I find curious is that those of us who are still stuck with
- >XTs and ATs to run Minix on are precisely the people who cannot
- >afford $200 for _anything_. :-/ It seems ironic (at least) that
- >there's a plethora of "free" tools at the high end and not at the
- >low.
-
- Folks, I think we're wingeing. The world has moved on and we expect
- it to look after our interests for free. That don't work and the
- best we can do is persuade the powers that be to sell the Ansi C
- compiler at a lower price. If it turns out that it is not feasible,
- we'll have to resort to making up our own or use a cross-compilation
- platform.
-
- In the meantime, I'd like to point out to you all that MS-Dos and Minix
- are the only operating systems around that do not require an iAPX386
- to work in the PC-style environmnet. Winge long enough and I'll be
- surprised if Tanenbaum doesn't tell us all to go fuck ourselves.
-
- [ climbs on soapbox ]
-
- Personally, I think it's time the research community started producing
- better hardware, in the modular fashion we expect software to be
- constructed, not leave it to commercial enterprises to define our future
- as has been the case with IBM and Intel for the past ten years.
-
- There seems to be a group of individuals who feel, as I do, that the
- Intel/ISA combination ought to have died long ago and refuse t support
- its cadaver. Let's try and convince researchers to move beyond this
- maggot riddled mound to healthier environments.
-
- [ gets pushed off soapbox ]
-
- I believe Tanenbaum is doing a lot more than ought to be expected of
- him, I'm even willing to believe that he's sacrificing higher goals
- to the Minix community which is largely ungrateful. Well, Andy, I
- like Minix, I don't like Linux (some of Linus' ideas are interesting,
- but his following is hardly likely to be excessively creative) and
- the main reason for liking 386BSD is that, like Minix, it is internally
- consistent and not excessively ambitious.
-
- Having thus placated the Minix godhead, how about a rewritten clone of
- Plan 9, to run on obsolete SUNs and VAXstations :-)?
-
- Happy 1993 to all.
- --
- Lucio de Re (lucio@phyrql.Alt.ZA)
- The supernatural does not exist, but it gives me the creeps...
-