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- From: wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius)
- Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
- Subject: Re: IMPORTANT [BUG in 0.99] Re: [ANNOUNCE]: linux version 0.99
- Message-ID: <1992Dec29.201449.22375@klaava.Helsinki.FI>
- Date: 29 Dec 92 20:14:49 GMT
- References: <1992Dec19.222324.22106@klaava.Helsinki.FI> <1hpsasINN6e@meaddata.meaddata.com>
- Organization: University of Helsinki
- Lines: 43
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- sdw@meaddata.com (Stephen Williams) writes:
- >Statics are either explicitly initialized or they are not.
- >If they are not, their contents are UNDEFINED until set.
- >This is per ANSI C.
- >
- >There is NO requirement of the compiler or system to zero
- >un-initialized statics (or auto's).
-
- Chapter and verse, friend, chapter and verse. I want you to give the
- chapter and verse in the ANSI or the ISO C standard (they are the
- same, except that their chapters and verses are numbered differently)
- that says that statics are not initialized to zero unless explicitly
- initialized to something else. (I agree about the part about auto's,
- though.)
-
- I don't have the standard (I'm way too poor to afford it), but K&R 1
- says, on page 199, in A8.6, Initialization,
-
- Static and external variables which are not initilized are
- guaranteed to start off as 0; automatic and register variables
- which are not initialized are guranteed to start off as
- garbage.
-
- K&R 2 says, on page 219, A8.7, Initialization,
-
- A static object not explicitly initialized is initialized as
- if it (or its members) were assigned the constant 0. The
- initial value of an automatic object not explicitly
- initialized is undefined.
-
- I need more convincing than your word. Chapter and verse (plus
- quotations as suitable) is enough.
-
- >The fact that some systems waste time doing so is no reason rely on it
- >as a feature. This was already debated and tossed out as something to
- >rely on.
-
- It has been a feature of C since the early 1970's (according to my
- knowledge it was there way before K&R 1 was published in 1978).
-
- --
- Lars.Wirzenius@helsinki.fi (finger wirzeniu@klaava.helsinki.fi)
- MS-DOS, you can't live with it, you can live without it.
-