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- From: rick@ricksys.lonestar.org (Richard McCombs)
- Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
- Subject: Re: Mixed format addresses *[long]*
- Summary: How do you know if you are lossing mail
- Message-ID: <921230.031043.7t4.rusnews.w165w@ricksys.lonestar.org>
- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 03:10:43 CST
- References: <BzJ21E.8uI@chinet.chi.il.us> <8DL9VB2w165w@willard.UUCP> <BzzCvL.2tv@chinet.chi.il.us>
- Followup-To: comp.mail.uucp
- Organization: The Red Headed League; Lawton, Ok
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-
- [What does this have to with waffle? note Followup]
- [And since it's getting long I decided not to include c.b.w in the
- Newsgroups]
- les@chinet.chi.il.us (Leslie Mikesell) writes:
-
- > In article <8DL9VB2w165w@willard.UUCP> dawson@willard.UUCP (Willard Dawson) w
- > rites:
- >
- >>Just how do we go about monitoring the overall status of mail? I'd say
- >>that there is no way to measure the general health of the net in this
- >>regard.
- >
- > Obviously you can't check the health of every site that might want to
- > send mail to you but if you have both a uucp name and a domain name
- > you can check your forwarding from the internet by sending yourself
- > messages in the form: path!to!forwarder!domain.name!you and
- > path!to!forwarder!uucp_name!you. Or, send a message to an address
- > that doesn't exist and wait for the bounce to come back. These don't
- > actually test the DNS lookup, so you might also want to send through
- > an different internet host to see if it can find your forwarder, but
- > once that's working it is not likely to fail later.
- >
-
- How is that going to test the uucp path to you?
- [I may live to regret this but here goes.]
- For instance, I am in the maps as ricksys with
- ricksys=ricksys.lonestar.org in the map.
- Even with a domain name I used to occasionally get mail from more than a
- few hops away, often from someone within a few hops of uunet that had
- used pathalias to find me which would cause it to travel to me via some
- path other than via my MX, but it would still get to me soon enough.
- Sometime in November I realized I hadn't received any mail from very far
- away other than via my MX in a while and I was also curious what the
- current path was to me from uunet, so I sent a test message from my
- account on cleveland.freenet.edu to rick%ricksys.uucp@uunet.uu.net and
- it bounced at (should I name names?) das.harvard.edu because it trys to
- send to rwsys!ricksys!rick@pandora but can't do it.
-
- I thought maybe that das.harvard.edu had a connection to pandora (I had
- seen pandora in the Texas maps but had not looked at the Mass maps yet)
- but didn't anymore. So I grabbed the Mass maps and found this...
-
- harv-net = { babbage, pandora, sancho, charmm, harvard,
- chimera, endor, hucsc, hustat, tardis, harveps,
- husc4, husc7, husc8, husc9,
- talcott, wjh12, pitirim, huelings, harvisr, hucmt1, huma1}!(LOCAL)
-
- The map said it was last update August 1, 1987.
- [Isn't there something in the comp.mail.maps README about not listing
- all of you hosts but only you domain gating system? Why do they need to
- be addressable as pandora.uucp?]
-
- Then in July this became part or the Texas maps.
-
- #N pandora, pandora.lonestar.org
- [...]
- #W pandora!cbradley (Chris Bradley); Sun Jul 26 23:10:21 CDT 1992
- #
- pandora = pandora.lonestar.org
- #
- pandora <deltos>(DIRECT+FAST), <letni>(DEMAND),
- jdavis(POLLED), kypris(DIRECT+FAST),
- mgx(DIRECT+FAST),<mic>(DIRECT+FAST), rwsys(DEMAND)
-
- So Harvard has been using the name longer even though the probably don't
- need it. I sent a copy of the bounce along with the relevent portion of
- the maps to both the postmaster@das.harvard.edu and
- postmaster@pandora.lonestar.org and did not get a response. I probably
- should have included the Texas uucpmap coordinator but I didn't.
-
- Am I lossing mail? How can I tell? I can only hope that if someone
- trys to send me mail and gets a bounce that they will send it to my
- cleveland.freenet.edu account which gets forwarded to me.
-
- If someone is close to pandora.lonestar.org and is not in a domain then
- they would be likely to lose a lot of mail.
-
- Lucky for me the local university here is getting on the Internet soon
- so my connections will change soon.
-
- BTW do map coordinators only grep the #N line when checking to see if a
- system name is already being used?
-
- --
- Internet: rick@ricksys.lonestar.org, bo836@cleveland.freenet.edu
- UUCP: ...!rwsys!ricksys!rick, {backbones}!ricksys.lonestar.org!rick
- BITNET: bo836%cleveland.freenet.edu@cunyvm Fidonet: Richard McCombs @ 1:385/6
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