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- From: scs@lokkur.dexter.mi.us (Steve Simmons)
- Subject: Re: List of enhancements
- Message-ID: <1992Dec28.173751.6892@lokkur.dexter.mi.us>
- Organization: Inland Sea
- References: <9212280932.AA14332@SERVER.uwindsor.ca>
- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 17:37:51 GMT
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- ophof@SERVER.uwindsor.ca (Scott Ophof) writes:
-
- [[ a number of interesting and useful suggestions on future elms ]]
-
- >Friendlier and more "intelligent" display of ones folders:
-
- On the list.
-
- >What about allowing invocation of "elm" from within itself?
-
- Eh? This works now. Just a few minutes ago I was reading mail
- and needed to go look at a different folder - "!elm -f =name"
- worked fine.
-
- >Unix boasts being able to be used from almost any terminal
- >imaginable. It's strange then that no application I've come across
- >up to now realizes that when a user wants to skip straight to (say)
- >the 4th page by hitting SPACE 4 times, one still needs to wait for
- >each of those pages to be laboriously built and displayed onscreen . . .
-
- Yes, it's probably possible, no, probably not portably. If you know
- of a generally available UNIX pager that does this, let me know. I've
- never seen one. But why hit space 4 times? Use the message number
- commands.
-
- >As to aliases, how about enhancing that facility to allow users to
- >include such things like which folder to store items in related to a
- >specific alias, phone numbers, surface addresses, user-definable
- >fieldnames and -values? Especially if the facility were not
- >integral to "elm" anymore, but invocable from "elm" as a separate
- >utility, which then could also be used by other applications.
-
- There are a zillion of these available. Selecting any one would be
- the wrong answer for everyone else; building the facility into elm
- would be an equally bad idea. What would be more useful would be a
- method to (a) automaticly rebuild the elm aliases database from some
- outside utility and db format (rolo_to_elm, etc) and (b) invoke a
- general interface to rotodex utilities from inside elm. Elm aliases
- are built the way they are for (a) speed and (b) reliability. Any
- solutions which depend on outside fromats sacrifice one or both of
- those two.
-
- >Another thing is the possibility of retaining the index of a folder
- >(as an on-disk file) as long as the relevant folder doesn't change.
- >Skipping the index-rebuild each time for folders containing many
- >items would save quite some wall-clock and CPU time (at the expense
- >of some disk space, of course).
-
- Absolutely. This is a wider problem than elm; mh and most other
- mailreaders have the same problem. In fact, it's the same problem that
- trn and nn try to address. It's a difficult problem but not unsolvable.
- The big issues are detecting external changes which would require the
- index be rebuilt. Note that mh, the ultimate UNIX mail toolkit, does
- not even attempt to address this (tho the mh docs claim it would be a
- good idea).
-
- We're always looking for people willing to pitch in, send mail to
- Syd and join the developers group.
- --
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