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- From: dpbsmith@world.std.com (Daniel P. B. Smith)
- Subject: Subcultures (was: Re: Is FORTRAN a viable language?)
- Message-ID: <C07GJx.66y@world.std.com>
- Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
- References: <1hqnn7INNfac@shelley.u.washington.edu>
- Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 02:35:55 GMT
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- Never overlook the fact that computing world is large, complex, and
- consists of many subcultures, most of which are astonishingly provincial,
- bigoted, and unaware of the existence of the others.
-
- The UNIX community is very heavily oriented toward C, and C++, because
- they are the language in which UNIX was developed.
-
- In the past, the PC community has tended to consist of relatively young
- programmers, and hence has tended to track whatever language was most
- fashionable in the academic community (notable BASIC and PASCAL). The
- popularity of C is partly based on its intrinsic merits, partly on the
- fact that it is a relatively "small" language that is relatively easy
- to develop compilers for, and partly on the influence of UNIX-trained
- programmers entering the market.
-
- Good, well-entrenched languages don't just evaporate if they have
- a) an installed base, b) a decent technical reason for being, c) compilers
- on plenty of platforms, and d) a good, active standardization committee
- that knows its stuff. FORTRAN has all of these. Speaking as someone who
- doesn't particularly like FORTRAN and doesn't use it currently, I think it
- is a very safe bet that FORTRAN will be alive and well ten years from now.
- I think it is a much safer bet that FORTRAN will be healthy than that the
- Intel-DOS-PC "architecture" will be healthy.
-
- If you expect your career direction to include science and engineering
- with numerical work, you might as well stay comfortable in FORTRAN and
- getting a compiler for your PC is a good way to do it.
-
- If you are most concerned with how to get a job as a software engineer
- in the next few years, C++ is the thing to learn right now.
-
- If you are most concerned with stretching your mind and understanding
- the wonderful possibilities of computer languages, try to expose yourself
- to some interesting, different, wild and wonderful languages. Some
- languages that tought ME something include:
-
- APL -- the niftiest language I've ever used for expressing numerical
- problems; the tool I'd most like to use if I had to solve a
- numerical problem myself and didn't care if it had to be
- published, used by others, etc; the language that taught me
- "loopless" programming.
-
- Smalltalk -- the real thing in object-oriented languages. Much more fun
- than C++.
-
- Microsoft Visual BASIC -- it's not the language tha matters, it's the
- overall environment. The language part of VB is boring. VB
- as a whole is very commendable. (You can learn the same thing
- from HyperCard on the Mac, or Toolbook on the PC).
-
- M (formerly MUMPS) -- the language with the universal data type.
- The things called "arrays" don't need to have dimensions declared
- in advance, are sparse, allow STRINGS as subscripts. Wanna
- express the idea that Dan Smith lives in Norwood? Just write
- set town("Dan Smith")="Norwood"
-
- Spreadsheets. The macro "languages" in them are bogus at best, but the
- overall concept of "formulas" and automatic recalculation are
- very interesting and quite unlike anything in traditional languages.
-
- Well, I could go on and on, but the point is -- explore. Stretch yourself.
- Don't try to find the "one best language" and become a boring language
- bigot. But if you like FORTRAN, don't be afraid it will die. You don't
- hear a lot about it here because this isn't part of the FORTRAN subculture.
-
-
- --
- Daniel P. B. Smith
- dpbsmith@world.std.com
-