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- From: mrs@netcom.com (Morgan Schweers)
- Subject: Re: Does DEMACS work reliably for anyone?
- Message-ID: <1992Dec30.142135.2704@netcom.com>
- Organization: McAfee Associates
- References: <1992Dec20.173946.20445@super.org> <RICK.92Dec29094313@mel1.geg.mot.com>
- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 14:21:35 GMT
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-
- Greetings,
- Okay, I've been using DEmacs since before it was made available to everyone
- (I was part of the beta crew) and there *ARE* A few things that people should
- be warned about.
-
- First off, the standard 'ibmpc.el' file that they give with it sucks rocks
- sideways through straws. It uses the absolutely worst method of remapping
- keystrokes possible. ANSI redifinitions. If you manage to exit from emacs
- without running through the hook which clears your keys, suddenly uparrow
- is defined as CONTROL-P. This means that if you're used to typing uparrow
- from DOS (for command recall, etc.), suddenly doing that starts you printing
- everything to the printer. (Often a bad thing.)
-
- Furthermore, if you are using a non-standard ANSI.SYS which doesn't have
- keyboard remapping (also a common thing), then you have *NO* use of your
- arrow keys.
-
- In general, the ibmpc.el file is a quick hack.
-
- Another problem which I've run into is that the maximum screen width is
- defined as 128 characters. If you have a 132 column screen, display problems
- begin to occur.
-
- Another problem which is annoying is that the 'original' demacs.exe file
- which comes with demacs is actually the go32 program from DJGPP, but modified.
- Unfortunately it's an old version. This won't cause problems unless you try
- to use it under Desqview/X, for example. It'll reboot your maching clear out
- of Desqview/X. (An impressive feat, since DV/X is supposed to protect against
- things like that.)
-
- Unfortunately, if you simply upgrade to the latest version of DJGPP's
- go32.exe program you lose the *VERY* usefule -keep facility. *sigh*
-
- In any case, I've been using DEmacs for quite some time now, and have had
- no major problems with it other than the ones listed above. My operating
- environment is MSDos 5.0 running Desqview/X, 10Megs of memory, average of 10
- buffers loaded into Demacs, two simultaneous DEmacs sessions running (one in
- 43x128 mode and one in 80x25 mode), and around 10Megs available for swap space.
-
- I've used Brief, Epsilon, Freemacs, and a few other emacs-like editors for
- the PC, and I'll never go back. DEmacs gives me everything I need, and I can
- pull all the '.el' files I need straight off my network connection and run them
- unchanged. Best of all, it's free.
-
- If, however, you're using a 286 or lower machine, I *STRONGLY* recommend
- Freemacs. It's a *FAST* little bugger, and works *VERY* nicely. However, it's
- limited to 64K buffers. I used it for around a year or two before DEmacs came
- out. It's a nice program, if a bit limited. (It's language is weird, but
- cool.)
-
- -- Morgan Schweers
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