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- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 16:14:57 -0600
- From: John.Desmond@tdkt.kksys.com (John Desmond)
- Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
- Subject: Re: Caller-ID and Forwarding
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- > [Moderator's Note: I think the catch here is the cellular carrier does
- > not deal with the caller-id when a call arrives at the cell switch. I
- > do not think it is 'true' call forwarding as the telco does it.
- > Instead of the CO switch dealing with it internally and sending it
- > along, the call is delivered to the cell company and they forward it.
- > For instance, if you called me and my personal call diverter answered
- > the line and patched you out to some other number, your call would be
- > passed right along to the new outside destination, and the end
- > recipient would get my number rather than yours because strictly
- > speaking, I was placing the call to him and handing him your call
- > rather than the CO merely diverting it. I think the cell carrier gets
- > the incoming call and deals with it rather than the CO which feeds the
- > cell carrier. That is the difference, and the cell carrier has no ID
- > to give the CO for the outgoing call. Try it between two 'regular'
- > lines with call forwarding and caller-id, then see whose number is
- > shown. PAT]
-
- In the above example of forwarding a cell phone to a landline
- phone, the cellular carrier is no doubt not connected to the SS7
- network. That is why the out of area message was displayed on the
- display unit. If the call was SS7 all the way thru the call ID would
- most likely be displayed rather than saying out of area.
-
- With SS7 the calling number is passed all the way along the
- network, the decision as to if the calling number is to be displayed
- or not is made by the terminating switch depending on what other flags
- are set in the SS7 message that was sent. If you make a call and have
- the ID blocked on your line, the SS7 network will inform the
- terminating switch of this and not deliver CID to the called party.
-
- The out of area message is used when the call has passed thru a
- switch that is not on the SS7 network at some point.
-
- Oh BTW, the cellular carriers switchs that I have seen are actual
- Class 5 type switches. They are DMS's 5E's ect. They run basicly the
- same software that the other class 5 switches run except they need to
- be able to communicate with the cellular phones in the field and make
- many other decisions that the landline switchs do not need to worry
- about. Granted their hardware is somewhat different, the basic switch
- is still the same internally and many of the same software modules are
- used in the cellular software as are used in the landline version of
- that switch.
-
- As far as the rest of the landline network is concerned the cell
- switches are just another CO. So they would handle call forwarding,
- etc the same way as any other CO would.
-
-
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