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- Path: sparky!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!telecom-request
- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 06:28:25 GMT
- From: news@cbnews.att.com
- Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
- Subject: Re: Texans Entitled to <=$1500 Damages For Computerized Calls!
- Message-ID: <telecom12.925.7@eecs.nwu.edu>
- Organization: AT&T
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- X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 925, Message 7 of 9
- Lines: 56
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- In article <telecom12.918.9@eecs.nwu.edu> gary.w.sanders@att.com
- writes:
-
- > In article <telecom12.914.5@eecs.nwu.edu> Gregg (G.) Woodcock
- > <woodcock@bnr.ca> writes:
-
- >> Under a new law that just passed in Texas, consumers are allowed to
- >> collect up to $1500 in fines agains any company who initaites a phone
- >> call with a non-human and can be identified (and who does not have
-
- > [Moderator's Note: Publishing your number in a BBS listing then
- > 'waiting for the calls to come in' would not benefit you anything
- > other than a lot of grief. The intent is there must be *no basis* for
- > the calls; your number appearing in such a list would provide the
-
- My concern was that someone could publish a phone number as a prank.
- A simple post to Usenet that some wisbang bbs is now in operation for
- only the call can generate a lot of phone calls ... I had my voice
- phone published in a magazine as a BBS line; I had calls at all hours
- of the day and night.
-
- > would refuse to make such corrections? If someone as a sick joke
- > published your number in a BBS list, your recourse would be against
- > the submitter and possibly the editor/publisher of the list; but not
- > against the caller, and not under the law being discussed. PAT]
-
- Why not under the law? Its suppose to be assocated with non-human
- callers? My computer calls all day long with no humans around. About
- the only part that doesnt fit is company, what consistues a company.
- If I get a junk mail caller and have it randomly dialing from my home
- phone I get around the law.
-
- No arguing with the law, just that the TX as many other computer laws
- are being made by people with no idea how the real world works.
-
-
- Gary W. Sanders (N8EMR) gary.w.sanders@att.com
- AT&T Bell Labs 614-860-5965
-
-
- [Moderator's Note: Why it would not apply to the human making the call
- in the case of an innocent BBS user calling your number is because he
- had some basis for making the call; namely a list of numbers which he
- accepted in good faith and tried to use. He is not in the habit of
- making **random** calls with his computer to just any number. He
- makes calls to numbers that he believes he has been invited to call.
- He anticipates that he is calling another modem/computer -- not that a
- human being will answer. What telemarketer begins with that premise?
- Now where this new law would probably involve guys with modems calling
- computers would be in the case of the crackers/phreaks who scan an
- entire exchange looking for modems. *They* use non-human equipment to
- scan entire prefixes, causing all the phones on the exchange to ring
- as their computer dials them one after another. I'd like to see that
- breed get slapped with the full force of this law. PAT]
-
-