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- From: galway@chtm.eece.unm.edu (Denis McKeon)
- Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
- Subject: bundled software (was Re: Hayes lawyers
- Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 12:06:00 MST
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- In article <1i5ti3INN9ic@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us> mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us (Marc Unangst) writes:
- >
- >I would hate to see Toby stop participating
-
- Me too - while I could care less about most press releases,
- clearly presented facts from an informed and knowledgeable
- source such as he are already too rare on Usenet.
-
- >In article <105934@bu.edu> heiser@acs.bu.edu (William Heiser) writes:
- >>I will say, though, that the software bundled with the Hayes
- >>is PITIFUL. Horrible horrible horrible!
- >
- >Bundled software usually is. I actually wish modem makers would stop
- >bundling commercial software with their modems -- it just makes the
- >modem cost more, and doesn't do anything for the people who don't run
- >MS-DOS or already have software. Supra seems to be doing one thing
- >right in this regard; you can get a Supra V.32bis FAXmodem with PC
- >software, with Mac software, or without software entirely.
-
- It seems pretty clear that most of the bundled software is:
-
- a) just barely functional for fax or data comm -
- enough to let you use the hardware, but no more.
-
- b) minimal or crippled versions of higher grade products,
- sold with the hope that the naive user will accept the
- user interface idioms and thus purchase the top-shelf software.
-
- c) licensed in bulk to the modem manufacturers,
- probably at a pretty small unit cost, considering b)
-
- Just ask yourself if you would actually purchase the bundled software in
- preference to a regular product. (In this group, that probably only
- makes sense with fax software - I suspect that most readers of c.d.m
- would use any one of a number of free or shareware data-comm packages
- before buying a data-comm package that is bundled.)
-
- I suspect that the actual increase in costs of a modem package due to
- bundled software (and coupons for info services) are small in
- comparision to the costs of including a cable with an external modem, or
- in comparison to the overhead required to produce and stock several
- packages for the various operating environments instead of just one package.
-
- List prices (as opposed to costs) are another matter altogether. I
- guess that the modem manufacturers view bundled software as a convenient
- way to reduce the cost of responding to support calls from naive users,
- (since those users are less likely to purchase other software) and as a
- way to extract a few dollars more from the market by presenting a set of
- products which are apparently differentiated.
-
- And having said all that, if anyone has a functional but not
- full-featured fax software package that would work with a Supra V.32bis
- under DOS that they want to get rid of cheap, send me e-mail & describe it.
- I'll pay shipping, but not much more.
-
- --
- Denis McKeon
- galway@chtm.eece.unm.edu
-
- QED: Quit and Eat Dinner
-