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- Path: sparky!uunet!psinntp!dg-rtp!salzo!berry!pat
- From: pat@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry)
- Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
- Subject: Re: HELLDIVER running with Win-OS2
- Message-ID: <V6mqwB2w165w@berry.Cary.NC.US>
- Date: Sat, 02 Jan 93 02:11:30 EST
- References: <11535@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au>
- Organization: Berry Communications
- Lines: 84
-
- rhys@cs.uq.oz.au (Rhys Weatherley) writes:
-
- > In <i0DNwB3w165w@berry.Cary.NC.US> pat@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry) writes:
- > >What I'd *like* to do is just create the article and queue it for later
- > >transmission. Then, when I'm ready to send my outgoing traffic, I'll
- > >just use Waffle's uucico like I always have. Is there any way to do
- > >this? Helldiver seems to insist on grabbing the modem and sending each
- > >article out the instant I finish editing it, and when that doesn't work,
- > >it dumps the article in the bit bucket.
- >
- > >Why is this necessary? I don't even understand why I *need* HSEND, but
- > >Helldiver won't let me not use it.
-
- First of all, let me apologize for frothing at the mouth the way I did.
- I've been hungry for Helldiver ever since the first time you posted a
- preliminary description of it a year ago. Over the last week and a
- half, I've tried half a dozen ways of getting a copy by ftp, mailserver,
- and BBS, but something always didn't work. Finally, I got it, installed
- it, and discovered that it wouldn't work on my system -- and the
- accumulated pressure temporarily dislocated my brain. I feel much
- better now, really. :-)
-
- > :-? Helldiver doesn't grab the modem at all. It needs to call Waffle's
- > RMAIL.EXE and RNEWS.EXE programs to feed the mail and news into the Waffle
- > system, and then those programs queue up the message in the usual Waffle
- > way. Polling, uucico, etc, don't come into the picture at all, or if they
- > do then there is something seriously wrong with your Waffle setup. :-)
-
- Some of the readers of this newsgroup have very kindly sent me notes
- explaining this. And not one of them called me a twit or told me to
- stop raving about things I don't really understand. Thanks for your
- patience, everybody.
-
- I think I have a better idea now of what is going on when HSEND gets
- called, and it certainly makes sense from a design standpoint.
- Nonetheless, it does prevent anyone running the program under OS/2 2.0
- from posting anything -- but you already know that.
-
- > Since OS/2 2.0 is being such a pain, how about this scenario: I create a
- > Windows version of HSEND (not hard) which copies the mail and news into
- > a temporary directory that you specify. Then once you are ready, you run
- > a DOS program to flush the contents of the temporary directory into Waffle?
-
- That sounds marvelous to me, and more than I could have asked for.
- Currently, I have a batch file that calls uucico and then uuxqt. I run
- it when I'm ready to dial up my smarthost, send my outgoing traffic, and
- receive any incoming stuff that might be waiting. I could just add a
- line to the beginning to run the flush-into-Waffle program, right?
-
- > You'd only need this for OS/2 2.0 - the DOS version of HSEND will be used
- > for Windows. It is possible to launch Windows apps from Windows apps in OS/2
- > 2.0 isn't it?
-
- To be honest, I really don't know. I didn't even know about the
- launching-DOS-apps-from-WINOS2 limitation until a few days ago. I
- haven't had enough experience running Windows apps under OS/2 2.0 yet.
-
- Incidentally, a friend of mine who has used the OS/2 2.1 beta tells me
- that you *can* launch DOS apps from the WINOS2 Program Manager, and he
- suspects that this means they can be launched from Windows sessions as
- well. Can anyone confirm this?
-
- > A native OS/2 version is a long-range possibility, but until I get more
- > disk space, more memory, and a compiler, it will remain vapourware. A
- > Windows NT version is more likely in any event, because that is my currently
- > planned upgrade path.
-
- But you'll need at least as much disk space and memory for NT, won't
- you? More, from what I've heard. Either way, you still have to buy it.
-
- This brings up a related question, one that will probably get me nicely
- flamed by Helldiver users everywhere. But I'll ask it anyway. Why are
- you giving Helldiver away for free? A program this slick and
- sophisticated is well worth a modest registration fee -- and it wouldn't
- take that many registrations to pay for your new disk drive, memory, and
- compiler. Those of us who are asking for enhancements ought to be
- willing to help provide the financial resources to make them possible.
- And you've certainly earned it.
-
- --
- Pat Berry - Cary, North Carolina, USA | "At least that's what *I* thought.
- pat@berry.Cary.NC.US | But I have a history of missing the
- **** Happy user of OS/2 2.0 **** | point of stuff like this."
- | -- Homer Simpson
-