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- From: ken@iat.holonet.net (Ken Easlon)
- Subject: Re: Easlon on emotion
- Message-ID: <BzxpnH.HKE@iat.holonet.net>
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- Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 20:16:27 GMT
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- In article <BztxFA.DG8@casper.cs.uct.ac.za> ,
- nhorne@casper.cs.uct.ac.za (N E Horne) writes:
-
- >In <BzJKxs.1L9@iat.holonet.net> ken@iat.holonet.net (Ken Easlon) writes:
-
- >How does this:
-
- >>I think it's more a case of our emotional state telling us what our mind
- >>is currently viewing as reality, and this is subject to change with mood.
-
- >lead to this:
-
- >>but any attempt at emulating consciousness is going to have to
- >>take emotions into consideration.
-
- First, I'll admit I'm out in the fringes of my philosophical capability on
- this issue, so anything I say is subject to retraction.
-
- When I say consciousness emulation must deal with emotions, I'm stating my
- belief that what I call consciousness (usually MY consciousness) has an
- intrinsic emotional component. Even when I'm not in the grip of passion I
- have attitudes and values that (I think) can best be described and modelled
- in terms of emotional or affective parameters.
-
- I see one task before me (us) of describing emotion/affect/feelings in
- terms of a mathematical model that makes sense objectively and
- subjectively.
-
- >There's a hint here of a strange breed of dualism: we being different to
- >our minds, wherefore we are *informed* about the perception that is
- >carried out by our minds. Now if this (duality) were to be, then emotions
- >are akin to sieves that filter parts of our mental perception through to
- >the conscious "I". But why then is it necessary to emulate this messenger
- >when reproducing consciousness. Why not just focus on emulating the
- >conscious receptor. Or perhaps have a messenger that tells all, not as
- >selective as our emotional states.
-
- >If this apparent dualism is unintended, then your first quoted sentence
- >implies that conscious perception precedes emotional interference "...
- >our emotional state telling us what our mind is [*already*] currently
- >viewing as reality ..." whence the emotional states at play are secondary
- >agents, altogether dispensable in modelling consciousness.
-
- When I say our emotions are telling us what our mind is viewing as
- real(ity), I guess I'm talking about the range of experience our
- consciousness has access to at any given moment (as in state specific
- memories).
-
- I think our perception of reality depends heavily on intuitive assessment
- of probabilities. Does a particular sensory clue mean this or that? I
- maintain that in one passionate state we might assess the probabilities one
- way, in another passionate state another way. In a reflective state we
- might see the various interpretations and conclude that our past
- certainties were unfounded.
-
- If our consciousness emulator is going to be purely analytical like HAL or
- Mr. Spock, then we can redesign/improve the emotional messenger. It
- depends on our purpose in carrying out the emulation. If we are trying to
- create a superior intelligence, able to leap to logical conclusions with
- unmatched accuracy, then emotions might well be an unnecessary hinderance.
-
- If on the other hand, we are trying to model the human mind with all its
- foibles and para-rational capabilities then we need to figure in the
- emotions.
-
- Emotions are essential for organisms struggling for survival, and the
- survival of our lineage for several billion years has left us humans with
- a solid core of emotional reality surrounded by a shell of intellectual
- capabilities.
-
-
- --
- Ken Easlon | "...somebody spoke and I went into a dream..."
- ken@holonet.net | -Paul McCartney
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