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- From: g9rwaigh@cdf.toronto.edu (Rosemary Waigh)
- Subject: Re: Eating killed animals (was Re: Gun Control Petition)
- Message-ID: <1993Jan1.014823.248@cdf.toronto.edu>
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- References: <schuck.725650169@sfu.ca> <1992Dec31.165905.10759@tse.uucp> <viking.725846832@vincent2.iastate.edu>
- Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 01:48:23 GMT
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- In article <viking.725846832@vincent2.iastate.edu> viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson) writes:
- >In <1992Dec31.165905.10759@tse.uucp> wayne@tse.uucp (Wayne Hines) writes:
- >>Let's be reasonable. Comparing cattle castration to human medical treatment
- >>is inaccurate and distorts Rosemary's argument. Cattle are castrated purely
- >>for human gain - obviously they have no choice, and it is really not to their
- >>benefit. People choose voluntarily to submit to medical procedures, and the
- >>resulting pain is endured for longer-term benefits.
- > Try to apply this to circumcision -- penile cancer is way down, but
- >I do not recollect anybody asking me if I wanted the procedure done, and
- >furthermore there is evidence that it was painful (no anaesthetic used,
- >of course). It is purely cosmetic surgery, painful, and the person
- >getting his dainty bits trimmed certainly has no choice in the matter.
- >Funny how the double-standard is applied, isn't it?
-
- Well actually Dan, I am opposed to the routine circumcision of baby boys
- without their consent and without anesthetic (well, even with anesthetic).
- >
- > BTW: the only human gain from castrating cattle is one of meat
- >texture; we could just as easily use only artificial insemination and
- >selectively strain out the male sperm to get only heifers, but I do not
- >see this "solution" has being any more moral than castration.
-
- Clarification: it is not castration per se to which I object but rather
- the painful methods used.
-
- And even if the meat industry switched to painless methods of castration etc
- I would still oppose the killing inherent in it.
- --
- Rosemary Waigh Undergraduate, Computer Science / Linguistics
- g9rwaigh@cdf.utoronto.ca University of Toronto
- "Looking at the Earth from afar you realize it is too small
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