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  3. From: wayne@tse.uucp (Wayne Hines)
  4. Newsgroups: can.general,can.politics,talk.politics.animals
  5. Subject: Re: Eating killed animals (was Re: Gun Control Petition)
  6. Message-ID: <1992Dec31.165905.10759@tse.uucp>
  7. Date: 31 Dec 92 16:59:05 GMT
  8. References: <viking.724844389@vincent2.iastate.edu> <1992Dec20.185357.3931@bmerh85.bnr.ca> <viking.724916100@vincent2.iastate.edu> <1992Dec23.150404.29387@cdf.toronto.edu> <schuck.725650169@sfu.ca>
  9. Organization: Toronto Stock Exchange
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  12. In article <schuck.725650169@sfu.ca> Bruce_Schuck@sfu.ca writes:
  13. >g9rwaigh@cdf.toronto.edu (Rosemary Waigh) writes:
  14. >
  15. >>A while back I posted excerpts of an article from _Cattleman_ magazine,
  16. >>a Canadian beef industry journal, in talk.politics.animals.  The article
  17. >>indicated that both the surgical and elastrator methods of castration caused
  18. >>some pain.  
  19. >      ^^^^^
  20. >
  21. >>To me what you have described is abusive, and is comparable to what is
  22. >>documented in _Diet_for_a_new_America_.
  23. >
  24. >Are you *really* implying that any medical procedure that has an
  25. >element of pain is *abusive*??????
  26. >
  27. >Does that mean dentists are *abusive* ?
  28. >
  29. >How about nurses when they poke your arm several times trying to find
  30. >a vein when they need blood?
  31. >
  32. >How about any surgical or medical procedure on animals or humans that
  33. >causes pain? I could list hundreds.
  34. >
  35. >According to you and your *book* -- *pain* of any kind is now
  36.                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  37. >considered abusive. 
  38. >
  39. Brother !
  40.  
  41. Let's be reasonable. Comparing cattle castration to human medical treatment
  42. is inaccurate and distorts Rosemary's argument. Cattle are castrated purely
  43. for human gain - obviously they have no choice, and it is really not to their
  44. benefit.  People choose voluntarily to submit to medical procedures, and the
  45. resulting pain is endured for longer-term benefits.
  46.  
  47. So *I think* that Rosemary's point still stands unrefuted (by your arguments
  48. at least).
  49. -- 
  50. __________________________________________________________________________
  51.         Wayne Hines 
  52.         wayne@tse.uucp 
  53.