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- From: beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard)
- Subject: Copyright Question
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- Organization: Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec, Varennes, Canada
- Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 18:24:04 GMT
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- I have a few questions about copyright. Maybe someone could have an idea?
-
- 1- THere is a booklet from the relevant canadian administration about
- copyrights. It says:
- a-You don't have to register to have a protection
- b-They talk about a "protected" work, like if there are "not-protected" works
- c-They give no hint about what is a not-protected work.
-
- Suppose X wrote a book in the 1930's and 1940's (a very large book, indeed,
- 3 series with about 30 books, with some 600000 marriage records summaries).
- However, there is absolutely no copyright logo (i.e. (C) 1936 Author)
- nor any mention of All rights reserved, you can't copy, etc.
- There is no legal deposit. I checked this in the 3rd series of books
- (published about 1949, after death of author, so the 50 year period for
- posthum works is not completed).
-
- In those circumstances, can I copy the books and make them electronically
- available? The data is not artistic nor any creation, but a collection
- of data one could find in the original records and in other books (so that
- you can't say XXX data is from work YYY or ZZZ). There are differences
- between the various sources and I would like to be sure when there are
- differences, I took the original good one.
-
- 2- In genealogy, it is common to step true a lot (i.e. 2000 books and
- microfilms) to copy in all those data information about our family, then
- to re-assemble the information and to publish it, without mentionning
- the 2000 books (for obvious reasons...). I think we can call this a
- collection, and it is considered different IMHO as the original works,
- which were other collections. I presume I can take one or more of these
- collections, and make them electronically available.
-
- Can I skip the intermediate step (i.e. the one that consist in copying
- only related data, like a family) and put this kind of data in a
- electronically usable format with public access? I plan to limit
- the copy to the pre-1800 period with the 2000 books cover a longer
- time period. I presume the pre-1800 period will include less than 10%
- of the complete data.
-
- 3- I heard about a company selling addresses. You could buy, for example,
- 10000 addresses of lawyers or doctors to send them some advertising.
- That company took a lot of addresses from phone books. They actually
- copied the phone books (which has a copyright notice) and were suited by
- the phone company. The phone company lost because the suited company
- was selling a "collection" of addresses from many phone books and not
- the same collection. In other words, the collection was not the same.
-
- Does anyone know the reference for this? I just don't even remember
- if it was a Canadian or American company. If it was a Canadian company,
- then I can do what I intended to do legally. Else, I will have to
- find some turn around (I think it would be enough I include the source
- of data).
-
- 4- There was also a software company selling a computer program. Someone
- forget to put the notice about copyright on the sealed envelop (it was
- somewhere else in the package). A customer then sold copies of the
- same program (actually plagiate) and was suited. Here again, the case
- was lost because the customer could do the selling in question without
- seeing the copyright notice (it was not in a place that "jumped" to
- the reader eye).
-
- As in 3-, does someone has the refence for this? I think it would be
- more common in the computer-based net to find someone who remember
- this case!
-
- 5- Thanks in advance. Have a nice holiday, folks :-)
-
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