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- Path: sparky!uunet!van-bc!sl
- From: sl@wimsey.bc.ca (Stuart Lynne)
- Subject: Re: can.domain
- Organization: Wimsey Information Services
- Distribution: can
- Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 10:13:58 GMT
- Message-ID: <C081rA.Eu3@wimsey.bc.ca>
- References: <Bzy58H.Fux@uunet.ca> <381@unbc.edu> <C07r77.4ut@uunet.ca>
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- In article <C07r77.4ut@uunet.ca> smd@uunet.ca (Sean Doran) writes:
- >lyndon@unbc.edu (Lyndon Nerenberg) writes:
- >
- >>No. If we're going to start clean we have to start clean. Off with their
- >>heads and let's start over from scratch.
-
- Nothing like getting this going with a bang!
-
- >CA does a number of things right, notably the assurance of proper
- >nameservice for anything that has a cooperative Internet forwarder,
- >X.400 routing, and a listing in the UUCP maps. All of these have been
- >good political decisions.
-
- Well I wouldn't agree with that. There is currently (unlike the .us or standard
- NIC domains) no requirement for having an Internet Domain Name Server
- to support your domain. Down south it *is* required. You can't get registered
- in .com or .us unless someone is willing to support an MX for you.
-
- I think it would be a good idea to emulate that. Given the number of current
- domains and likely growth over the next few years it wouldn't require a great of
- work or a large system. Just one that has a reliable connection.
-
- >appropriate for the management of a domain's namespace is silly. That
- >way lies inefficiency and further growth of the NIC-controlled domains
- >like COM and ORG.
-
- Explain why. The mechanism seems to work to produce standards for the IETF.
- I fail to see why it couldn't work to create a standard for CA-Domain. I agree
- that implementation should be controlled by a Czar. But policy should be
- created by the users.
-
- >Ideally, the CA-DOM process should be this:
- >
- >1. Network provider (or UUCP liaison or whoever) puts together correct
- > form with a reasonable domain. This person makes sure that the
- > domain is working, and any local nameservice or mail handling is up
- > and running. The domain is submitted to the domain czar.
- >
- >2. Domain czar approves or disapproves of the form, citing reasons.
- > Ideally, this should be done within a business day or two of
- > receiving the form.
- >
- >3. Domain czar arranges to have appropriate DNS records put into the
- > CA domain, and whatever network address/name mapping is appropriate
- > (for the moment this still includes NetNorth and CDNNet).
-
- Yes. But we need a policy statement (i.e. guidelines) that are based on
- the users requirements.
-
- >a discussion between that person and the czar. Such a discussion
- >would certainly be faster and more likely to be satisfying to all
- >parties than a long debate in committee, followed by a formal vote.
-
- Agreed.
-
- >We could fight for a long time about who qualifies. Alternatively, we
- >could stick with John Demco, who is doing the job well, although I
- >think he spends too much time dealing with the committee.
-
- And not enough time talking to the users.
-
- >Given that two of the members of the committee now represent networks
- >which are being wound down next year, I think it's reasonable to
- >number the days of the CA-DOM committee as a policy-making body.
- >However, there is no reason that the czar couldn't consult various
- >people or the general public when a difficult political or technical
- >matter crops up.
- >
- >To shout "off with their heads, let's start over from scratch" begs
- >the question of the value of gained experience. I have no faith that
-
- Well it comes from people who have been waiting for five or six years to
- say it. We first started talking about .ca back in 1986 and early 1987.
-
- I do agree I'm not sure that we need to be quite that extreme.
-
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