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- From: woods@robohack.UUCP (Greg A. Woods)
- Subject: Re: Reserving a sitename under .ca with a "blanket application"
- Organization: Elegant Communications Inc.
- Summary: Why bother? ".CA" seems un-suitable for non-institutions anyway.
- References: <1992Dec29.175746.13732@newscan.canada.sun.com> <C082x8.GCt@wimsey.bc.ca> <1993Jan2.213523.28582@tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca>
- Message-ID: <1993Jan3.170612.13057@robohack.UUCP>
- Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 17:06:12 GMT
- Lines: 89
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- In article <1993Jan2.213523.28582@tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca> timk@tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Tim Kuehn) writes:
- > What I would like to see would be a way to reserve a standard
- > organization name for all geographic sites under .ca. Then, when
-
- I think Tim's misleading or confusing us(/me?) a wee bit by opening
- his discussion in this way, then concluding with:
-
- > While I like the idea of registering the sites under ".ca" in order to get
- > a consistent geo-political naming convention, the possibility of having to
- > submit an application for each and every site makes me lean more in favor
- > of going under ".org", barring an amendable "blanket application" process
- > which would greatly facilitate the assignment of domains for trans-canada
- > and international organizations.
-
- I am, after all the years since the formation of the CA domain, still
- at a great loss to understand why any entity not specifically tied to a
- given geographical area would even consider registering in a
- geographical domain!
-
- Such domains seem to make some degree of sense for government agencies
- (including educational institutions, etc.).
-
- However, for all the rest of us, being tied to geographical domain
- seems to be a wee bit odd. On the other hand, perhaps those of you
- who've never been transplanted between cities, or even provinces,
- might not have a problem with this. For me however, I'd be loath to
- register a "personal" domain name in a geographical sub-domain, never
- mind what I think of registering a corporate entity as such (even one
- incorporated in a specific province!).
-
- Anyway, it seems to me that at least half of the folks participating
- in this discussion wouldn't have to bother if they registered in one
- of the non-geographical sub-domains (i.e. ".org", or ".com")!
-
- Finally, I've a couple of comments on specific items in Tim's post:
-
- First, I think that "blanket" applications are an answer to the wrong
- problem (see my discussion above!).
-
- > city.prov.ca.orgname.org for Canadian sites, and
- > city.ua.orgname.org for Ukranian sites
- > city.gtm.orgname.org for Guatemalan sites
-
- Or, if you're smart enough to just register "orgname.org", then you
- can control your own sub-domain, and thus create any naming scheme
- underneath that makes sense for your organization:
-
- department.division.orgname.org
- site.orgname.org
- site.city.orgname.org
- city.orgname.org
-
- Or whatever..... Just so long as you properly configure your domain
- gateway mailer to understand your particular situation.
-
- > 3) Having a domain under ".org" should make it easier to deal with all
- > admin, network connections, and forwarding at the central site
- > responsible for the ".orgname.org" domain.
-
- Having a non-geographical domain name also makes moving between
- geographical regions, or even expanding into new regions a non-issue!
- From what I understand, it also means you can simply add new MX'ers in
- the new region to add new gateways to your domain, and additionally
- not having to have complex schemes to contain inter-sub-domain mail on
- private links.
-
- > 5) Using the ".org" would result in having to use a naming convention which
- > is the exact opposite of the convention used under the ".ca" naming
- > convention. Such "counter-to-convention" naming practices should be
- > avoided if at all possible.
-
- I'd also like to point out that the *original* domain names (eg.
- ".mil", ".edu", ".net", ".gov", etc.) seemed to lend themselves to an
- exactly "counter-to-non-email-convention" scheme (eg.
- "site.dept.univ.edu"), and that such a logical naming scheme so
- confused my British cousins that they went and reversed it right off!
- Now we Canuck's are doing the same thing, but without a national
- mandate to be one way or another!
-
- I'd suggest that anyone who has trouble with policies in any/all of the
- existing domains should campaign for the formation of a new top-level
- domain such as ".pri" (or ".priv"), rather than try to inflict change
- in an existing domain which may have been set up for quite specific
- purposes.
- --
- Greg A. Woods
-
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