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- Path: sparky!uunet!uunet.ca!xenitec!van-bc!sl
- From: sl@wimsey.bc.ca (Stuart Lynne)
- Subject: Re: registration -vs- forwarder policy
- Organization: Wimsey Information Services
- Distribution: can
- Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 22:10:47 GMT
- Message-ID: <C08yy0.3qJ@wimsey.bc.ca>
- References: <C07r77.4ut@uunet.ca> <C081rA.Eu3@wimsey.bc.ca> <davecb.725998930@yorku.ca>
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- In article <davecb.725998930@yorku.ca> davecb@nexus.yorku.ca (David Collier-Brown) writes:
- >In article <C07r77.4ut@uunet.ca> smd@uunet.ca (Sean Doran) writes:
- >>CA does a number of things right, notably the assurance of proper
- >>nameservice for anything that has a cooperative Internet forwarder,
- >>X.400 routing, and a listing in the UUCP maps. All of these have been
- >>good political decisions.
- >
- >sl@wimsey.bc.ca (Stuart Lynne) writes:
- >| Well I wouldn't agree with that. There is currently (unlike the .us
- >| or standard NIC domains) no requirement for having an Internet Domain
- >| Name Server to support your domain. Down south it *is* required. You
- >| can't get registered in .com or .us unless someone is willing to
- >| support an MX for you.
-
- As Sean pointed out in another followup to this thread. Registration in
- .com only requires an SOA record. Registration in .us does seem to require
- a MX record.
-
- I just went back and re-read the relavent section in RFC-1386. It's actually
- a bit cryptic. The only place it say's an MX is required is in the section
- dealing with UUCP hosts. I've sent off an email query to the RFC authors to
- see if they can clarify this point.
-
- > Ok, here's a factual disagreement and a policy question. Lets put the
- >policy question up for debate...
- >
- > As I understand it, and organization with a discontinuous net (ie,
- >no internet mail forwarder) in Canada can register a domain name. In
- >the United States this is untrue. There you can have an IP network
- >number allocated, but you cannot have a domain name without a mail
- >forwarder (and someone to hold your MX records, as a practicality
- >issue).
- >
- > The U.S. position has been criticized because a company cannot
- >``reserve'' their domain name. The Canadian position has been
- >criticized because the domain is unreachable.
- >
- > Is this an either-or situation? Is there a middle ground? Is there
- >a necessary relationship with the allocation of an IP address?
- > Does the .ca domain registrar actually place the domain entry into a
- >DNS server without any A or MX records? What effect does this have on
- >email?
-
- It would seem that NIC position of requiring only a Start of Authority
- record is the middle ground. It get's you into the DNS without actually
- doing much other than saying that you exist and who is maintaining the
- record.
-
- For example nslookup -type=soa questor.org.
-
- Server: vanbc.wimsey.com
- Address: 0.0.0.0
-
- questor.org
- origin = van-bc.Wimsey.BC.CA
- mail addr = root.Wimsey.BC.CA
- serial = 1992111302
- refresh = 900 ( 15 mins)
- retry = 300 ( 5 mins)
- expire = 1209600 (14 days)
- minimum ttl = 600 ( 10 mins)
-
- Now nslookup -type=soa gov.coquitlam.bc.ca.
-
- *** vanbc.wimsey.com can't find gov.coquitlam.bc.ca.: Non-existent domain
- Server: vanbc.wimsey.com
- Address: 0.0.0.0
-
- Questor actually does have an MX with us. But it is not required.
-
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