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- From: jmc@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (John McCarthy)
- Subject: Re: Save the Planet and the Economy at the Same time!
- In-Reply-To: kberry@sactoh0.sac.ca.us's message of Sat, 2 Jan 93 19:41:39 GMT
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- Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University
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- Date: 2 Jan 93 14:58:32
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- Mr. Berry is mistaken in his belief that the whole world cannot sustain
- itself at a U.S. living standard including personal transportation.
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- He is also mistaken in his belief that the high U.S., European and
- Japanese living standards depend on exploiting the resources of
- the poor underdeveloped countries.
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- We are exploiting cheap foreign labor, and if we couldn't do so,
- there would be a small reduction in living standards. However,
- 1.2 billion Chinese have just recently made themselves available
- for exploitation, this being better than their other alternatives.
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- Moreover, there is progress. 30 years ago, we exploited South
- Koreans who worked for $50 a month. Just recently, the South
- Koreans started to exploit the Vietnamese who now get $50 per
- month, whereas South Koreans get $1500. (The South Korean
- company Daewoo is putting up a factory in Hanoi to manufacture
- television picture tubes.)
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- As I have done in the past, I am willing to take any two resources
- Mr. Berry can mention and show how they are available or substitutable
- on a sufficient scale for the world to reach U.S. standards.
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- The problem is that probably that Mr. Berry has been misinformed by
- his teachers and other environmentalist, anti-civilization
- propagandists.
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- John McCarthy, Computer Science Department, Stanford, CA 94305
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- He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense.
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