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- From: rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
- Subject: Re: Electronic Literacy
- Message-ID: <1993Jan1.210434.18643@eff.org>
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- Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 21:04:34 GMT
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- In article <01GSY539Q2WY0004Y3@camins.Camosun.BC.CA> Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA> writes:
- >One important area of concern I have is the effects of
- >electronic media on literacy. In particular I am concerned
-
- Well, in general, you have to be able to read. Literacy isn't
- quite the term I would use here, but I can't think of better one right
- at the moment.
-
- Have you read Sara Keisler and Lee Sproull? They've done much
- of the cutting-edge work both independantly and together on electronic
- communications. I have their books and papers in the office, so I
- don't have ISBN's and citations handy, but they're published by the
- MIT Press.
-
- Ellen Spertus has also done some interesting analysis of
- electronic communication as it pertains to women. Her work is
- published by the MIT AI Lab. You may also want to read Howard
- Rheingold's essay "Virtual Communities."
-
- >(BTW, Words-L is an interesting example of the immediacy/
- >involvement principle in action.)
-
- Not really. I don't think you understand the nuances of
- electronic culture. You cannot make blanket statements about how the
- quality of discourse is affected without taking into careful
- consideration the subtle etiquette, personality, purpose, etc. of the
- forum in question. BITNET is only one network. Even USENET, which
- has tremendous amount of overlap with BITNET is much different. For
- example, your .signature is far too long to be considered in good
- taste -- and you would probably be largely ignored because of that
- superficial indication of your unfamiliarity with the culture. You'd
- be pegged as a tourist. If you move from there to the various
- commercial services such as CompuServe, America Online, Prodigy, etc.,
- you'll find worlds where few of the rules you've learned here apply.
- BBS's are another entire culture unto themselves. This isn't even
- taking into account individual discussion lists.
-
- This isn't Star Trek, Peter. If you look at and analyze what
- has been happening in electronic communications for the past 20 years
- (When did ARPA first go on the air? 1969?), you would have a much
- better idea of where it is going. Computers that analyze speech have
- been around for about 10 years already. They have been used largely
- with the handicapped so far, but haven't managed to infiltrate the
- general marketplace. Why? What does that say about where the
- technology is going? We can come up with all the nifty toys we want,
- but if people don't want to use them, they are not going to become
- commonplace. I have the capability to send sound and pictures with my
- e-mail if I wanted to. I don't bother. How long have video
- telephones been around? I seem to remember seeing them hawked on one
- of those television shopping shows a few years back. Yet I don't know
- anyone who owns one.
-
- We prefer text. Why? Even in France, where it isn't just the
- educated and moderately wealthy elite who have basic telecom (Minitel
- is available to all citizens), they use text.
-
- The Macintosh interface does well, as evidenced by the cludgy
- attempts of PC's to mimic it. But we haven't seen the explosion in
- Virtual Reality that everyone was predicting. Five or so years ago
- someone came up with something called Habitat that represented
- databases as libraries, etc., and generally made the interface look
- like a city. It never went anywhere. Even English professors like
- Natalie -- going against stereotype -- prefer the command line
- interface.
-
- Once you can explain why all this is, then maybe you can talk
- about where we might go in the future.
-
-
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