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- Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 17:44:41 -0800
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- From: Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>
- Subject: Re: Deep beliefs
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- > From: torkel@SICS.SE
-
- > But surely you had read the notices stating that this model *is* the
- > official protocol? "The weak are killed and eaten"?
-
- Can't say that I did. A whole lot of stuff came at once. The official
- cover letter from Natalie made it sound like a certain decorum was in
- place, not that she said anything directly about it. Just the style.
-
- > to say that they have any validity. In my opinion, as I thought I had made
- > clear, those comments have no validity at all.
- No you didn't.
-
- >>Suffice it to say, that the kind of person with deeply held beliefs that
- >>I have in mind would be a Gandhi, a Mother Theresa, a Martin Luther King,
- >>an Albert Schweitzer, maybe even a Gorbachev whom I find a most remark-
- >>able person.
- >
- >Of course this is what you had in mind.
- I notice that you have removed the context of my statement above, which
- had to do with FANATICS, and you have not responded to my request for
- a definition, it being a term which you introduced.
-
- > And indeed, in spite of your present waffling, you finally stated
-
- I think you mean my inability to satisfy your misinterpretation. If
- my position has changed in your eyes, in any way, I would be happy
- to have you point it out. I'm rather reminded how Geo. Bush con-
- tinuely tried to make it sound like Clinton was waffling, in spite
- of the fact that every time Clinton opened his mouth he said almost
- word for word what he had been saying from the beginning of the
- primarys.
-
- > deserve respect precisely because they are deep, whatever their contents -
- > the beliefs of Hitler as much as those of Gandhi.This was the view I
- > supposed lay behind your original complaint, and this is the view I
- > reject. Mere depth of belief deserves neither respect, nor admiration.
-
- That, of course, is your privilege. I rather wonder, however, if we
- mean the same things by DEPTH. If you mean merely a strong emotional
- attachment, then I don't think we're in the same ball park.
-
- > Why, since making fun of things means disrespecting them, in your
- > terminology, I can answer quite broadly: whatever belief I share or
- > respect I may also make fun of.
-
- Nonsense. I allowed a meaning for the word mockery that involved a
- playful, inoffensive teasing. You simply by-passed that, and made a
- general response to my request for an example of how you manage to
- disrespect that for which you have great respect -- IF that was what
- you meant by mocking that for which had great respect.
- I'm reminded of your response when I first said I had had my say.
-
- In any case, since the laws of the jungle apply here, why shouldn't
- blatant self-contradiction as well?
-