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- Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 12:21:25 +0100
- Sender: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu>
- From: torkel@SICS.SE
- Subject: Re: Deep beliefs
- Comments: To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu>
- In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri,
- 25 Dec 92 00:50:25 -0800. <9212250852.AA05179@sics.se>
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- >I think that is a pity, but if behaviour is determined somewhat
- >on the Lord of the Flies model, then my objections are futile.
-
- But surely you had read the notices stating that this model *is* the
- official protocol? "The weak are killed and eaten"?
-
- >If they're relevant, why not support the idea of respecting things
- >of important value to people?
-
- To say that your comments about "mocking humanness" are relevant to the
- question whether we should avoid offending anybody's sensibilities is not
- to say that they have any validity. In my opinion, as I thought I had made
- clear, those comments have no validity at all.
-
- >Suffice it to say, that the kind of person with deeply held beliefs that
- >I have in mind would be a Gandhi, a Mother Theresa, a Martin Luther King,
- >an Albert Schweitzer, maybe even a Gorbachev whom I find a most remark-
- >able person.
-
- Of course this is what you had in mind. Which is why I was careful, in
- my very first comment, to state my assumption that we both agree that there
- are also deeply held beliefs that are Bad. And indeed, in spite of your
- present waffling, you finally stated clearly enough that deeply held beliefs
- deserve respect precisely because they are deep, whatever their contents -
- the beliefs of Hitler as much as those of Gandhi.This was the view I
- supposed lay behind your original complaint, and this is the view I
- reject. Mere depth of belief deserves neither respect, nor admiration.
-
- >..., could it be that you are saying you sometimes disrespect beliefs for
- >which you have great respect? If the latter, I should be quite grateful
- >for an example.
-
- Why, since making fun of things means disrespecting them, in your
- terminology, I can answer quite broadly: whatever belief I share or
- respect I may also make fun of.
-