NetNews Usenet Archive 1992 #31/NN_1992_31.iso/spool/bit/listserv/sedsl/226

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Path: sparky!uunet!paladin.american.edu!auvm!TAMVM1.BITNET!FHD
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.seds-l
Date:         Thu, 31 Dec 1992 08:47:57 CST
Sender:       "Interchapter Communications for SEDS" <[e-mail]>
From:         "H. Alan Montgomery" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Monthly Harangue
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-=<*>=-    Get a Hardcopy of This and Hand to ALL Your Friends    -=<*>=-
-=<*>=-       HEY! I'm not kidding. Get a printout of this!       -=<*>=-
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My e-mail address is:    "H. Alan Montgomery" <FHD@TAMVM1>
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SEDS-L is  for  interchapter  communications  for  the  Student  for  the
Exploration and  Development  of  Space.   All  topics  relating  to  the
organization can and should be discussed on this list.  Try to  keep  the
organization up on your local chapter's trials and tribulations  as  well
as your triumphs and achievements.  All other discussion needs to  go  to
one of the numerous space discussion groups.
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If you have access to UseNet News, please UNSUB from SEDS-L and read  our
newsgroup. You need to look under bit.listserv.seds-l on UseNet  News. If
you are on a workstation (SUN, ethernet, etc), talk to your net  manager.
If you are on a VAX or micro-VAX, please inquire immediately. VAX's  have
fixed number of blocks for mail. It will cut down on your mail immensely.
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So you want back issues of SEDS-L. You just type:
    TELL LISTSERV AT TAMVM1 GET SEDS-L LOGyymmq
where yy is the last two digits of the year, mm is the month with leading
zeroes (January is 01), and q is the week letter (first week is A, second
week is B, etc.). The list is so active that an entire month is too large
to get to in one chunk.

If you are not on BITNet and want  back  issues,   just  send  e-mail  to
[e-mail] and type:
    GET SEDS-L LOGyymmq
as the only line in the letter. The log will be sent to you as mail.

SEDS-L is supposed to be for Students for the Exploration and Development
of Space business.  This has become a list where all  chapters  tell  the
other chapters and national what is going on locally.

Try not to send short personal messages.  Send mail  to  the  list  about
events then ask people to e-mail responses to you directly. If  you  need
input from various users, open up a discussion and ask for input. If  you
need input from a single user,  then e-mail that person.  Don't  use  the
list to communicate with an individual.
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Do not post anything over 300 lines to  SEDS-L.  If  you  do,   you  give
headaches to people you will never meet and never know.  E-mail  runs  at
the top priority, so your large e-mail may cause the  spooler  (translate
that to printer) to halt on micro-VAX's.  Imagine if you will:  "Late  at
night you are doing a program at Enormously Small University. The printer
stops for no apparent reason while someone's large e-mail passed on  down
the line." If you have some big article, break it down into Part 1 of nn,
Part 2 of nn, etc.  Alternately, post a notice that you have  this  large
file and ask people to send you their e-mail address  if  they  want  it.
Then ship it to them using SENDFILE instead of mail. SENDFILE has a  much
lower priority.
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If you are on BitNet and wish to sign up, just type:
   TELL LISTSERV at TAMVM1 sub SEDS-L   Your Name
If you want to signoff, do this:
   TELL LISTSERV at TAMVM1 unsub SEDS-L

(the keyword TELL is different on VAX's, so look  in  the  user's  guide
for your local computer to make sure I am correct)
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If you are on InterNet(ARPA):
1) Invoke your mailer with the address:
   [e-mail]
2) Do not fill in a name (Let it default to blank)
3) Do not fill in a subject (let the E-mail go out subjectless)
4) In the body of the letter, just put one line:
   SUB SEDS-L   Your Name
5) Make sure your return address is:
   [e-mail]
6) Send out the mail.
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If you are on InterNet(ARPA):
1) Invoke your mailer with the address:
   [e-mail]
2) Do not fill in a name (Let it default to blank)
3) Do not fill in a subject (let the E-mail go out subjectless)
4) In the body of the letter, just put one line:
   UNSUB SEDS-L
5) Make sure your return address is:
   [e-mail]
6) Send out the mail.
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You decide that you need to know someone's address (maybe  mine). If  you
are on BitNet and wish to know  all  the  e-mail  address  of  people  on
SEDS-L, then type
   TELL LISTSERV at TAMVM1 rev SEDS-L
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If you are on InterNet(ARPA) and you want the e-mail addresses, then:
1) Invoke your mailer with the address:
   [e-mail]
2) Do not fill in a name (Let it default to blank)
3) Do not fill in a subject (let the E-mail go out subjectless)
4) In the body of the letter, just put one line:
   REV SEDS-L
5) Make sure your return address is:
   [e-mail]
6) Send out the mail.
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Every once and a while your computer stops talking  to  my  computer.  Or
your computer decides it does not want to talk to my  computer.  Or  your
computer talks too much to my computer.  Here are the silly  things  that
have been happening with SEDS-L and SEDSNEWS:

1) The English are different. Their node addresses  are  backwards. Their
   computers are always dropping their links with the rest  of  the  net.
   This is analogous to having the water turned  off  for  two  or  three
   days. If you do not get mail from SEDS-L daily, then  something  might
   be wrong with your computer and  the  site  coordinator  needs  to  be
   informed.

2) VAX's under VMS occasionally are programmed to  UNSUBSCRIBE  you  from
   lists if your MAILER dies.  If you  are  planning  a  vacation,   stop
   SEDS-L   and resubscribe when you get back. If you are deathly  afraid
   of the computer and only log on when  you  absolutely  have  to,   you
   really should not be on this list. SEDS-L   produces too  many  blocks
   to be left unattended.

3) VAX's have a certain amount of blocks  allowed  for  mail.  Tell  your
   friends that they will need alot of blocks.  If you  cannot  get  many
   blocks, then you need to unsubscribe and get an account on an  IBM. If
   you are in Australia or New Zealand, have a heart to heart  talk  with
   your systems group before subscribing. I have had people there  barely
   avoid lynching, because they had so much mail from this list.

4) Occasionally your account's MAILER may go belly  up.  Make  sure  your
   systems group finds out why.  The way you know this  has  happened  is
   that you invoke your mailer and it crashes your account. Or you get no
   mail and you have enough blocks.

5) CompuServe is a pay service. If you exceed your mail block limit, then
   they send me a message saying you exceeded your  limit.  Get  alot  of
   blocks on CompuServe to hold mail. The Space SIG on CompuServe is very
   big. You might want to mention this list with the above warnings.

6) British networking is a little different than American networking. You
   might want to check to see if your system  has  any  differences  that
   would impact a LISTSERV.   I had a case  at  Christmas  1989  where  a
   computer in England decided to answer SEDSNEWS instead of the LISTSERV
   when the account's mailer died. This meant that the error went to  all
   subscribers instead of just me.  A little over  a  gigabyte  later  my
   SEDSNEWS went belly up.

7) If you do not register for the summer, some computers unsubscribe  you
   from all lists or they send me a note saying that you no longer exist.
   If they send me a note, I unsubscribe you. I do not give much slack on
   this one. If a note reaches me that says: "Unknown Recipient", I  drop
   you there and then.

These are my problems.  They are yours as well. You  need  to  take  some
action if you have any of the above situations.  A simple  call  to  your
local node manager might save you some problems later.