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- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 06:26:01 -1000
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- From: James Shimabukuro <JAMESS@UHUNIX.BITNET>
- Subject: Re: Standard English
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- On Mon, 21 Dec 1992, David E. Schwalm wrote:
-
- > Marcy, you're caught in a classic bind. If you are going to have a writing
- > program (with program goals and objectives) rather than a collection of
- > writing courses in which each instructor does his or her own thing . . .
-
- Why does it have to be one or the other? Seems to me there's a wide range
- of possibilities in between. Also, is "each instructor [doing] his or her
- own thing" necessarily bad?
-
- > . . . you have
- > to develop a set of competencies and a standard syllabus.
-
- Developing "a set of competencies" is fine, I think, but developing "a
- standard syllabus," I'm not too sure about--considering the assumptions.
-
- > And the more
- > sections you have taught by novices or marginally trained faculty . . .
-
- Are those who fall into these categories necessarily poor teachers of
- composition?
-
- > . . . the more
- > rigid the std syllabus and the std assignments have to become.
-
- A non sequitur.
-
- > When I started
- > to review the assignments instructors were giving here when I first came, I
- > realized that I would have to tighten the program up (or down) a little.
-
- That's a lot of power for one person.
-
- > Most
- > of the assignments were either trivial or silly, undoable, totally unrelated
- > to academic enterprises, and purposeless. And there was enormous variability:
- > in one class students got to compare breakfast cereals or family members,
- > while in another students had to read complex essays and compare different
- > writers' views on abstract topics. The degree of difficulty of this writing
- > ranged wildly.
-
- In one--albeit powerful--person's estimate.
-
- > You can have a looser program if you have instructors who are
- > knowledgeable about writing and rhetoric and who have established and agreed
- > to sensible goals for a required college writing course. But who's got a staff
- > like that?
-
- We do. And I'm sure others do, too.
-
- > We have a pretty rigid program. We have posited certain goals and
- > values in our courses; we have developed syllabi and assignments that should
- > help students reach those goals . . .
-
- Is this the royal "we"?
-
- > . . . we help our TAs and part-timers acquire
- > students centered teaching methods; and we try to make the case for our
- > approach on the basis of good theory and good practice. We feel that our
- > novice instructors are able, in this way, to provide a solid writing course
- > for their students and to learn a great deal themselves about the teaching of
- > writing. Eventually, they can become a bit more creative, after they have a
- > better idea of what they are doing. (Most of the "creative" assignments I have
- > seen from new TAs were actually pretty bad writing assignments.)
-
- Of course, "they" are not part of the "we."
-
- > So, given the
- > resources our universities are willing to devote to writing instruction, I
- > don't think we need to be too apologetic about being a little rigid.
-
- More than "a little rigid," I think.
-
- Obviously, I differ from the views that David offers. Many of our finest
- writing instructors have had little or no experience teaching composition
- courses. I also feel that writing is emphasized and supported at many
- institutions; it definitely is in the U of HI system. However, I
- differ most in the management style that's implied in the "we" vs. "they"
- dichotomy, especially when the "we" is really an "I."
-
- Jim Shimabukuro
- Kapiolani CC
- jamess@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu
-