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- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 16:47:29 EDT
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- From: Craig Jackson <cjackson@MGH.COM>
- Subject: Re: IBMLink
- In-Reply-To: <9212211914.AA08845@drilex.DRI.MGH.COM>; from "Alasdair Grant" at
- Dec 21, 92 5:25 pm
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- > Firstly, there is a difference between per-account support and services
- > available to everyone, even non-customers. Apple and Novell provide anonymous
- > FTP and Gopher sites, containing some patches, documentation etc. which are
- > accessible by anyone on the Internet. However, their customer-only services
- > (AppleLink and NetWire respectively) are _not_ accessible by Internet, only by
- > dialup. IBM also has services on the Internet, but at development labs, not
- > sales/support offices.
- >
- > Secondly, while IBM would be allowed to offer password-protected access to
- > resources on a commercial TCP/IP network, I think most people on this list are
- > at academic or military sites, and hence are talking about using the research
- > Internet. My understanding is that its usage policy does not allow support of
- > formal commercial relationships, whether intra-business, inter-business, or
- > business-to-customer.
- >
- > So, IBM _may_ be allowed to have a publicly-accessible service on the research
- > Internet listing APARs, PTFs, announcements etc. and other read-only
- > information; Apple's and Novell's services would be a precedent. But as soon
- > as they try to restrict it to existing customers only, by using passwords,
- > that becomes a commercial relationship.
- >
- > This is just my informal understanding of how it works. But I guess that part
- > of the reason for keeping commercial, for-money business off the Internet is
- > precisely to avoid having to be too formal in the first place!
-
- There is a fundamental misconception here about the NSFNet Acceptible Use
- Policy (which is the most stringent, in general). Use of NSFnet resources
- to communicate between a Research/Education site and a Commercial site is
- generally determined to be in furtherance of research and education. (This
- has been discussed extensively on the commercialization/privatization mailing
- list, com-priv@psi.com.) If you consider it, it makes sense. The reason
- why a university buys a computer from IBM (or whoever) in the first place
- is to further research and education. Keeping that system working through
- maintenance and support activities would presumably also further research
- and education, and therefore would be acceptable traffic over NSF network
- resources.
-
- (I'm explicitly not saying NSFNet here, because I don't understand the
- relationship between the "NSFnet" and the ANS backbone. And my company
- is an ANS customer!)
-
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