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- From: TIP@CORNELLC.BITNET (Mark Simon)
- Newsgroups: bit.listserv.emusic-l
- Subject: Re: PHIL COMP
- Message-ID: <EMUSIC-L%92122110004330@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU>
- Date: 21 Dec 92 14:10:04 GMT
- Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List <EMUSIC-L@AUVM.BITNET>
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- In-Reply-To: Message of Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:12:16 GMT from <STERN@MAIL.LOC.GOV>
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- I would like to side up with Robert Depin as far as the paper-and-pencil vs. se
- quencer debate is concerned. We would expect as a matter of course that a novel
- ist or a poet should be able to transfer his/her thoughts fluently into written
- language. Why shouldn't a composer be expected to be fluent with the basic ele
- ments of his/her written language? It's just a basic tool of the trade. When I
- get a musical idea I can't be bothered with pushing a lot of buttons on a machi
- ne. I've lost the idea by that time. But I can jot the idea on paper in two win
- ks and there it is for all time. It's so much more direct. I generally will wri
- te out the basic structure for the whole piece (melody, bass line, chords, some
- counterpoint here and there) and then go to the sequencer, where I invariably
- come up with many other little details which flesh out the composition and make
- it interesting.
- I have very little interest in sound for its own sake. The most important
- thing in music is structure. Whatever the basic material of the composition is
- be it melodic, rhythmic or timbral, it must be shaped into an effective large-
- scale structure in order for it to make any kind of emotional impact. Good soun
- ds can certainly make a big difference as far as creating interest is concerned
- but it's got to take the back seat to structure. It's just like orchestration
- in the world of conventional music. Neither Beethoven nor Schumann were particu
- larly illustrious in the orchestration department, but Beethoven's structural
- mastery was so profound that it never matters in the slightest. Schumann's orch
- estral music, on the other hand, always leaves me feeling rather "ho-hum". On
- the other hand, both Stravinsky and Ravel were absoulutely brilliant with the
- orchestra, but Stravinsky's grasp of structure raises his music way above the
- level of "pretty sounds". Listening to too much Ravel leaves me feeling about
- the same way as eating too many jelly beans.
- Mike Metlay shouldn't fret too hard about a stuffed shirt like Karl Haas
- not liking electronic music. Ever listen to one of his radio shows?
-
- --Mark Simon
- tip@cornellc.cit.cornell.edu
-