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- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:31:00 GMT
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- Subject: The cure for frustration?
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- From Greg Williams (921222)
-
- >Bill Powers (921222.0800)
-
- >Unfortunately, all the real experimental investigation of control
- >behavior is being done by a small handful of people with no
- >funding or assistance, who are either retired and decrepit or
- >working full time at something else to make a living.
- >The timetable depends, therefore, on the person-hours available
- >and the facilities for doing the research, including availability
- >of human subjects. As long as the list of people actually
- >devising and carrying out experiments and modeling is limited to
- >Rick Marken, Tom Bourbon, and me, the queue of possible
- >experiments with HPCT is going to grow while the actual work done
- >trudges along at a slow pace.
- >When I last looked, there were 132 subscribers to this list.
- >Permit me a moment of impatience: when are some of you people
- >going to get out of your armchairs?
-
- I suppose that most of us are either retired and decrepit or working full time
- at something else to make a living, AND ALSO (instead of doing PCT
- experiments) doing other things we think are more important TO US than doing
- PCT experiments. All of that needn't prevent some of us from suggesting
- possible PCT experiments to you and Rick and Tom; you might not have thought
- of doing them, and, on occasion, you might actually decide to give them higher
- priority FOR YOU than the experiments (and other PCT-related activities)
- you've been working on. My notion in suggesting step-tracking modeling by you
- was that it would be interesting to see how general the (low-error) continuous
- tracking model is, and that you and Tom are the ones who are set up to do it
- (with software and hardware -- I don't even have a working joystick right now
- -- my kids are primo joystick torturers). Maybe more netters would be moved to
- become experimenters if they could get the tracking software you use from you
- or Tom (that would save them a LOT of development time). Maybe you could even
- give a higher priority to preparing a tracking experiment lab kit for
- students. If I had a "plug-and-play" tracking lab, I'd know I'd buy a new
- joystick. So here's a middle way: you and/or Tom come up with a "tracking
- experiments for nonprogrammers" disk, and I bet several of us will get out of
- our armchairs. Scolding us isn't a sufficient influence to make ANY of us
- learn C or Pascal, I'll bet.
-
- As ever,
-
- Greg
-