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- From: "DRCV06::GRAHAM" <GRAHAM%DRCV06.decnet@DRCVAX.AF.MIL>
- Subject: Re: Christian nation.
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- Zane,
-
- The issue of "Christian nation" is not just semantics. See many of the
- Middle Eastern countries where the religion has taken over the country.
- The countries are not followers of Islam, the people are, but the people
- THINK their nations are Islamic, so they create a religious dictatorship to
- make it so.
-
- Many of the Christians in the United States would welcome no less of a
- dictatorship than may be found in Iraq or Saudi Arabia. The difference
- being they would want Christian values enforced instead of Islamic ones.
-
- Yes, there is a Christian nation, it is the church, but it has no temporal
- authority. The most heinous crimes of history have been committed because
- Christians attempted to rule using Christian values. The tragedy is that
- what they thought to be Christian values, usually weren't.
-
- We don't need Christian nations, we don't need safe environments for our
- children, we don't need countries where Christians have rights, we need to
- have the personal goal of spreading the gospel, nothing else.
-
- People are so worried about the environment in which their children are
- raised, history and the Bible both show clearly that a wicked society is
- the BEST place to raise a devout child, not one where evil is squealched.
- That may seem contradictory, but it is true.
-
- I most definitely do not want Christian values, whatever they are, imposed
- on the nation. The United States started out with laws attempting to
- enforce some "Christian values" and it got them nowhere. It was once
- illegal to ride a horse more than a few miles on Sunday. Who on earth, or
- heaven, gave anyone the right to form such a stupid law. The law was meant
- to enfoorce keeping of the "Sabbath." Not only should that be a personal
- choice, Paul says in Romans 14 that it is not a matter for judging in any
- manner.
-
- Thus, we come to the core of the problem. People who want this country to
- be a "christian nation," generally want it ordered after Old Covenant laws,
- specifically, the Ten Commandments. In 2 Cor. 3, Paul calls the Ten
- commandments a "ministry of death." I don't want any country where I
- live ruled by a ministry of death.
-
- Whether the founding fathers of the United States intended the country to
- be a Christian nation or not is irrelevant. Most of them were not in any
- way Christians, regardless of their claims, and their desires mean nothing.
- The same Declaration of Independance that names the Creator refers to the
- Native Americans as "merciless savages." The same constitution that grants
- freedoms to "all" allows the practice of slavery, it took a horrid war to
- solve that one.
-
- It was a "Christian" administration that send thousands of Cherokee Indians
- on the "Trail of Tears," where 90% of them died. No, the United States is
- not a Christian nation, and who cares if it is or not. I am interested in
- Christian people, not Christian nations.
-
- Dan Graham
-